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27 July 2010 - 10:16 PMAh, i seem to have been mistaken slightly, the honest to god black hose line etc. is fine.
You see, it may not be fine. It may be cut badly which is making it look like the "piston thingy" (collar for future reference) is leaking.
I mean where the two silver parts are that connected (Somewhat of a newb still with electro's, used to steel-braid)
I think it was mentioned above by name, but i can't find it, but the part of the fitting that goes onto the hose, and then the little....piston thingy that then goes into the fittings on the ASA and the reg. So its Fitting->plunger/pistonthingy-hose. The piston thingy, that seems like its supposed to move because i can move it when its unpressurized, is what moves out a bit under pressure.
This is completely normal, actually if it didn't happen that would be odd. Without pressure you should be able to wiggle the collar back and for and the gap should close and open. Under pressure they should push out.
And i still might do the above, just to match it as red. Does it require any heavy duty tools other than say..a wrench? Never had to re-line my gun yet, since its still not even fully broken in.
You need a wrench, just for a little tightening. Also a little teflon tape or blue loctite. The hardest part would be making sure you don't overtighten it. I'll get into the installation a little more below.
Edit: For clarification if you can't understand that, if you look at box 2, so see some line, then the silver starts, then theres a groove, then the silver continues. Its the first silver thing that goes into the hole of the second silver thing. Sorry bout the terminology, but eh.
Ok, so you should still follow my (and everyone elses) advice above. Check to see if the macroline is cut properly (the black tube) because it could be causing the leak. If it's a clean straight cut then your looking at a bad fitting.
Macroline Removal and installation instructions:
QuoteMacroline can be a tricky thing at times, and I have noticed throughout this site that not everyone knows how to use/properly install macroline and other people don't know whether to get macroline or steel braided hose. So listen up closely and I'll answer all your questions about macroline in this thread.
Macroline looks and feels like plastic. It has the same standard ID size as steel braided hose, meaning that neither one will offer higher flowing performance
. Macroline is very easy to install correctly, but is also very easy to install incorrectly so you need to be careful when you're cutting your macroline hose to your desired length or you may just screw it up.
When you first get your macroline kit, which can be found here - the first thing you need to do is install the fittings.
Normally you three choices:
* One 90* fitting and one straight fitting
* Two straight fittings
* Two 90* fittings
The only difference between the two kinds of fittings is to make your macroline setup look as good as possible. To install the fittings, my tool of choice would be an adjustable cresent wrench. I use a fully adjustable so you know you can get a good fit on the macroline adapters and you won't scratch them up, as you run the risk of doing if you do the job with pliers or other such tools that require you to put a lot of pressure on the fitting.
Next step to installing a macroline setup is the part where most people fail if they are new to macroline. When you first take the macroline out of the package you will notice that is very smooth on the ends of the hose, both sides. If it has rough edges or is cut unevenly it can leak. So when you are trying to cut your macroline to the desired length I recomend you do two things:
1) Cut the hose about an inch longer than it needs to be(i'll explain why later).
2) Cut it with a very sharp object like a pair of kitchen scissors.
Something I've seen countless people do is try to cut their macroline hose with a steak knife or other similar utensil which is most likely the least effective way to get a good clean cut. What a steak knife will do is just leave a ragged cut since the knife itself has a ragged edge on it. The other part that is bad about cutting a macroline with such a tool is you have to do it with the macroline sitting on some sort of "flat" surface and you cannot always ensure a cut that's right down the center. It can either vary by moving a bit to the left or a bit to the right. Either way is unacceptable, as it will be off a bit and most likely leak.
Now, why make the hose an inch or so longer you ask? Very simple, macroline is not the strongest thing, it can wear away in the fittings and become uneven on one side which will require you to trim your macroline every now and then, and the last thing we want is to have the macroline perfect length, only to need to cut some off making it too short and also making it useless. I have found over my past experiences with macroline, that it tends to wear away more with the usage of pure co2 over anti-siphoned co2 or nitrogen. I think thats pretty obvious why, if liquid co2 touches part of the fitting it can cause it to crack, cracks can mean small, unoticable leaks but leaks nonetheless that will drain your tanks faster than you think. With anti-siphoned co2 and nitrogen you will notice the same wear and tear that you should expect to get, eventually it will wear away at the hose, but thats why you leave the hose an inch longer so you can trim it and still use it for a good long time. And even when it is time to replace the macroline hose, it only costs a dollar per foot, so its not like its going to cost you an arm and a leg.
Another thing that people who are new to macroline can get confused over is how to uninstall the hose itself from the fittings. This is a very simple process. All you need to do is pull out on the ring on the top of the macroline fitting when you pull out the hose. So in other words, you pull out the hose, and you will notice a ring that looks like its trying to come out but is stuck, while you keep pulling on the hose, all you do is push down on the ring, and it will release the hose from the fitting. Look at the side of the fitting that is pointing upward, you can see the ring that needs to be pushed down Here is a pic of the straight elbow, casually look at the top portion of the elbow and you will notice the same design, all you do is push down on the ring and pull the hose out at the same time with this fitting as well and the hose will come free.
So there you have it, all the wonders of macroline are revealed, hope this helped!
That's taken from a different site. In summary:
-Push the collar in (so that gap is gone) and hold it in while pulling out the macroline, remove both sides.
-Remove macroline fittings with the proper size hex wrench (lefty loosey righty tighty).
-Reinstall new fittings, wrap a small piece of teflon tape around the threaded end or use blue loctite, screw it in hand tight then give it another 1/2-3/4 turn with the proper wrench.
-Cut macroline, make sure it's a nice clean cut.
-Push macroline firmly into the hole on the fittings.
With your Proto you will notice that once you remove the macroline, you will be able to spin the fitting and part of the regulator that it's attached to. This is normal, but when you reinstall macroline fitting make sure that it still spins around. If it doesn't spin you screwed the fitting in too much.
Feel free to ask any more questions.
27 July 2010 - 05:16 PMWell, in my experience, the lines should be able to be pushed in and then come out when unpressurized, but when pressurized, mine have kind of popped in a little, but never popped out like you are saying.
You shouldn't have a leak. It may be a bad 90 degree fitting, but you say it happens in your fitting and your Asa? That's...odd. Also, try oiling it up a little as well.
Bah, he shoots a Mini don't listen to him.
This happens all the time to me. It's one of two things:
-A crappy cut on the macroline, it hasn't been cut perfectly flush or it has a small nick or something allowing air to go around it and out of the fitting. Now I've seen some crappily cut macroline that works perfect and I've seen some great looking macroline leak and be replaced and the new line works. It's really hit or miss but for $10 you can get around 5 feet of macroline and it's a good thing to keep in your toolbox.
-A crappy fitting. It's really common on lower budget markers (no offense) for the fittings to have small leaks. Fitting are super cheap, so it's not a big deal. Normally what I find as a temporary fix is to just wiggle the macroline around a little bit while listening. You can normally find a "sweet spot" where the line will stop leaking.
The first thing you should do is make sure your macroline is installed properly. You should be able to push the macroline all the way in with a little bit of force, then try to pull the line out. The collar on the fitting (what your boxes are showing) should pop out a little bit, but the macroline should stay put. Both fittings should do this. To take macroline out just push the collar down and hold it down while pulling the line out.
The easiest thing to do for you is to follow my temporary fix and make an order on macrolineguy.com. Get some new fittings and macroline. You can even match them to you marker!
$1 - Macroline any color
$4 - 90 degree swivel fitting
$8 - Colored 90 degree swivel fitting
$3 - Shipping
So $17 for a couple colored fittings and macroline or $12 for a couple standard silver fittings and macroline.
27 July 2010 - 12:18 AMNo way man. I cut down from 16 to get to these. Former gun whore.
25 July 2010 - 09:20 PMThat's crack shooting, that is not allowed!
Really? Never heard of that at any of my local fields. I just learned how effective it can be. All the spools are at the 50, so when I'm playing pump I can just get there and pick my shots.
In Mitch forces words, "get off your knees, your not a hooker!"
Cool pics though
How do you know?
Interesting pics... How about some action shots?
I don't decide what gets taken, when they upload the shots from today I'll see.
24 July 2010 - 09:23 PMI played with a guy several saturdays ago.
God I can't help myself from taking that out of context. I apologize.
I would say he's incorrect for sure. Even real war itself doesn't help you in paintball. I watched a rookie team roll all over a team made up of all Army Special Forces and a few other soldiers. It was a no contest. They're used to engaging from fiurther away and accuracy. Plus loook at the form used to fire a weapon vs. paintball gun. So I don't see how a video game simulating war would possibly help you...
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