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22 September 2007 - 04:44 AMWhy would you stay on the field if your gun is malfunctioning anyway? You could be spending your time getting it fixed or getting a different primary. A pistol is the most useless thing in paintball, and if you are going to run with it you have to carry 10 round tubes(or mags), and 12 grams. It's more weight to drag with you on the field.
One of the guys that plays often at my regular field often goes out with a Tac 8 and 1 extra clip. He rarely misses. A pistol is only useless if you're not good with it. Otherwise, it can apparently be quite useful.
19 September 2007 - 07:37 PMrightintheface,
I guess I missed your reply before sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I deleted the quotes as the post was starting to get long... Anyways. I love when people try to use the real life military examples about real marines carry 80 pounds of gear and they can fight just fine. Well you know what? If marines could know how long the game is going to be and carry how much ammo they need KNOWING they would be coming home from a set mission without a doubt they would, but they can't its two different things. It has nothing to do with perception and everything to do with strategy.
I don't think I've ever said anyone can't play dagger with a mil-sim marker, tons of paint, a sidearm, a remote line, and more other pointless stuff than they can carry but what I have said, and will continue to say is they are HURTING THEIR DAGGER POTENTIAL BY PREPARING FOR THE 1 in 1000 versus the 999. But you were saying the extra weight was functional, yet I fail to see having a milsim marker and sidearm are practical. They look cool, thats about it.
I don't think you understand my "dagger theory" because you would understand that I've stated numerous times that anyone can play however they want. But the truth is people who want to take their game into the next level have to understand that lighter is better, and start thinking about the equipment they carry onto the field. The trip about lactic acid PROVES the theory using chemistry, what I work with, in a physical environment, what I work in.
And here is where we come to my favorite argument of the pro-mil sim where they try to call me weak / nonathletic / slow where they point out that if I work out I could build my tolerance and physical fitness. If you would like to see some stats of mine I will be more than happy to PM you but were not talking about me. This is where the real beauty of the science lays, regardless of how athletic, or non athletic you are the extra 6 pounds builds more lactic acid and thus will slow you down quicker and make you sore quicker.
My point with the military isn't that you should carry all sorts of extra junk as a just in case, but that those guys CAN perform with a great deal of weight, and thus the 10-15 pounds of total weight in a gearkit is pretty negligible. I guarantee if you strapped 5 pistols to me, I'd still do just fine in a dagger role. I understand your response in the context of the purity of a dagger role, but there are plenty of situations where other stuff can/would be useful. Of COURSE you're going to primarily use your main marker. But 2 weeks ago I had serious barrel breaking issues (field made me use crappy field paint...I won't be playing there again.) When my gun was doing nothing but splatter painting the ground 2 feet in front of me, I'd have LOVED to have had a pistol (and I intend to soon...my new job as a ref will be supplementing my funds.).
Regardless, if you're a 90 pound kid that gets tired carrying your marker, maybe a pistol or some grenades aren't for you. As a 200 pound guy in reasonably good shape, I do just fine carrying all sorts of stuff, lactic acid be darned.
That said, please don't try to throw science in my face. I know about lactic acid. We probably have comparable education. I also know that lactic acid or no, I can haul 200 pounds of me plus my marker 50 yards up the field at the start of each match and outrun guys half my weight, I can dive between bunkers, I can jump, roll, I can literally hurdle bunkers, etc. And I can do it multiple times per day. Now, maybe I have more lactic acid at the end, but I'm doing just fine. I'm nothing special, especially in the world of paintball, but I can get the job done. Would I carry a pistol onto a speedball field? Nope. But I'll gladly carry it into the woods.
edit: incidentally, I'm not "pro-mil-sim". I primarily use a PMR with an UL frame, and a VL Evo III loader. Fairly speedball-worthy gun. That said, I'm going to have lots of fun with my T9. And I don't care if it isn't quite as high-performance. Sometimes, in my friendly neighborhood games, fun is important too.
28 August 2007 - 03:21 AMSomething I think MMA teaches you is being able to improvise fast. "Hey, I've just been picked up into the air, and I'm hurtling toward the ground. New game plan!"
All good advice. To clarify, the MMA analogy is only how I think about things, not how I explain them. I agree with you that if someone didn't have the same understanding I did, that would be a difficult analogy to use. Thanks for the input though.
27 August 2007 - 03:22 AMI coached high school football. I have often used football for examples on this forum and with my team. My best dagger has been envolved with martial art as have I, and your analagies make sence. But makes more sence is that it makes sence to you and to your team. Anything that improves your understanding of the game is valuable. If you can teach someone about a flanking manuver as a (vulgar term about a female dog) slap, like when Courtny did something mean to Barbie so be it. (I admit that was a little out there but the point is real.) Use what helps you and your team.
(P.S. rightintheface if your into MMA tell me what my hometown means to you.)
The Shamrock boys live there. Nice bit of trivia. Do you ever see them around?
My bit of trivia is easier. Before moving to Baltimore, I lived in Davenport, IA.
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