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Posted 11 January 2007 - 10:07 AM

As a guy that play's in a Broardsword postion, I was wondering if I should be reviewing my kit, and if other people have any ideas that may be usfull to us all on the kit that we use.

I am looking for kit that is in use, and not sitting in a bag somewhere, as we all store kit in our bags that never see's the light of day. If there is anything that is strange just say why you find it useful.

1 SP8 as Below c/w 1 Q-Pod, Air Bottle, Remote Line.
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8 Q Pods, 3 Madbull Grenades, Radio Equipment, Leatherman, 3 Smokes, 3 Grenades, Cloth, Small First Aid Kit, Rubberbands (for quickly attaching local vegitation if reqired), electrial tape & tyraps (in field repairs)

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SP-8 Camo, 360 QEV, Firebolt, Stock, Q Loader, Freak Back/AA front with Apex , 30mm Sight, Mad Bull XM203 Grenade Launcher,

SP8 Jungle, Standard at the mo............

Zeus G1+ as a Side Arm.

Tippmann C98, Double trigger, Maddman Springs, Flatline Barrell, Progressive 16", Tapco Folding stock.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 10:35 AM

I'd check your paint load. It seems high. Also, check how many rounds you can fire off of one tank. If you can't go through all 900, then add another tank, or carry less paint, especially because you have q-pods, because it is harder to give them to someone else.
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 11:26 AM

View Postmchainmail, on Jan 11 2007, 05:35 PM, said:

I'd check your paint load. It seems high. Also, check how many rounds you can fire off of one tank. If you can't go through all 900, then add another tank, or carry less paint, especially because you have q-pods, because it is harder to give them to someone else.


I play with other people who use Q Loaders, so a spare one is some times a help, and if I have a pod go down for some reason ie, ball breaks in the Pod, I never wait to use the last ball, I may have 10 or fiften balls left, then I change for the next the at least I have another one, that means I have a full Q Pod when the fun Starts.

I have been known to carry a second tank, but its not all the time, or take out a dive cylinder when defending, plus more Q Pods.

I have checked with a calculator and I am not far off, from my past experiance I have found that I am going out with the right amount, may be one extra, but as I say if a ball breaks in the Pod then I got a spare.

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SP-8 Camo, 360 QEV, Firebolt, Stock, Q Loader, Freak Back/AA front with Apex , 30mm Sight, Mad Bull XM203 Grenade Launcher,

SP8 Jungle, Standard at the mo............

Zeus G1+ as a Side Arm.

Tippmann C98, Double trigger, Maddman Springs, Flatline Barrell, Progressive 16", Tapco Folding stock.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 11:50 AM

yeah definitely reduce ur paint capacity... u dont/shouldnt need that much paint...
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 01:48 PM

what r u guys talking about, as a broadsword you should be suppressing as much as possible! more paint is always a must, not to mention 900 rds isnt too much, i've carried up to 1200 i personally think 800-900 is perfect.
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 02:36 PM

View PostChaos Fiend, on Jan 11 2007, 01:48 PM, said:

what r u guys talking about, as a broadsword you should be suppressing as much as possible! more paint is always a must, not to mention 900 rds isnt too much, i've carried up to 1200 i personally think 800-900 is perfect.


I agree, I always carry around 890 rds for just a short game.
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 05:14 PM

View Postmchainmail, on Jan 11 2007, 09:35 AM, said:

I'd check your paint load. It seems high. Also, check how many rounds you can fire off of one tank. If you can't go through all 900, then add another tank, or carry less paint, especially because you have q-pods, because it is harder to give them to someone else.




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Broadsword = massive paint loads. It would depend on the situation too. But, just like back men in tourney ball, the broadsword keeps people's heads down.
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 06:01 PM

I don't carry near as much as you guys-800 rounds, including my hopper, and I've never used the whole thing. I run a 91ci tank, which can usually last for two loads of paint. Besides that, a first aid kit and maybe a grenade or two, although I rarely use them. I personally find carrying any more then that just encourages overshooting. I mean, supressing fire is one thing, but there a comes a point where you're just wasting paint.
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 06:14 PM

interesting to hear different views.

As a heavy rifleman I carry about 1200 rounds with me in my tac ten vest. I use a 88/4500 tank. With my inline stabalizer I can get about 1900 shots from my X7 before I need air. I'd rather have more paint than carry little and run out in the middle of a firefight.
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 07:58 PM

View PostRPGDAWG, on Jan 11 2007, 05:14 PM, said:

interesting to hear different views.

As a heavy rifleman I carry about 1200 rounds with me in my tac ten vest. I use a 88/4500 tank. With my inline stabalizer I can get about 1900 shots from my X7 before I need air. I'd rather have more paint than carry little and run out in the middle of a firefight.




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View PostChaos Fiend, on Jan 11 2007, 12:48 PM, said:

what r u guys talking about, as a broadsword you should be suppressing as much as possible! more paint is always a must, not to mention 900 rds isnt too much, i've carried up to 1200 i personally think 800-900 is perfect.

Yeah, but carrying more paint than you have air to shoot is just silly -- unless you are your team's dedicated pod monkey, which is also just silly... :P :ninja: :D
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 06:31 PM

I carry:
Vest:6-140 round pods, F-Bombs or 3-100 round pods, 20 oz CO2, First Aid, Electrical Tape, Rag/Cloth, Clips on D-Rings, Swab, Rubber bands

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 06:33 PM

For some reason I find this debate about paint load amusing, but it has only re-enforced my theory of how there are different types of Broadswords; light (Long Sword's*) and heavy (Battle Axe's**). The Special Ops Positions are more like guide lines for players, as many before me have said, but from what I have experienced the Broadsword has had the widest range variation compared to all the other positions.

With the amount of paint I shoot you may ask why I don't have a Hammer when my single A-5 A-2 Battle Axe cost more than a stock A-5 double trouble, but I enjoy the being the equivalent of a light Hammer without the complete loss of maneuverability. With Trumpet's Q-pod I would consider him an average Broadsword, and to answer his question I think his set up is very nice and well rounded. To all of you that are having a hissy fit about having too much paint I would call you Long Sword's. I would defiantly not say that every team needs a Long Sword, a Broadsword, and a Battle Axe, but I think that comparing a Long Sword to a Battle Axe is about that same as comparing a Saber to a Broadsword.

I have played at big game scenarios and this debate reminds me of an incident which took place at the Michigan Monster Game last year where I led a squad (I am also a Squad CO) during the last quarter. Our team was losing badly, but we cleared the back 20 acres with minimal losses. After being deployed for over an hour we were finally slaughtered because a guy that I shot told a huge mob our location :D . Well, the point of my story is when I got back to our base came, the day was done, and I started to unload my gear-vest to realize the only paint that I still had on me was about 100 rounds left in my hopper. I wouldn't say that I shot more than necessary, but that was the day I decided that I need a bigger gear load. I thought that 1300 rounds was enough, but this spring before big game season starts I plan on picking up an Operative vest with 2 leg pod pouches and a 45/4500 to rig together with my 92/4500. With a total paint supply of about a case of paint this will also cut down on times when I have to go back to base camp and restock. I may have a heavy gear load, but I still am one of the fastest members on my team.

I have seen a lot of players who call themselves Broadsword's, and almost everyone of them has a different interpretation of the position. I try to spread the concepts of the Long Sword and the Battle Axe because some like to set themselves apart from the standard position where the "norm" isn't very common. So lets stop this stop this petty little argument about paint loads and just accept that everyone has their own way of doing things.

* I first saw the term Long Sword used for a light Broadsword by MASTER OF PAINTBALLS in this thread, and I wanted to make sure he gets the term coining right for it.

** I'm not looking for a copy right here, but I just want to claim term coining rights to the name Battle Axe as a heavy Broadsword. I came up with it with some friends, and so far I have not seen anyone else use the term before me.

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:19 PM

I would actualy consider myself a Longsword. I only have a stock double trigger on my custom pro and keep a steady 3-6 bps when suprressing because there is not much to shoot at were I play. The biggest game I have ever been in was a 15 on 14 game. Because the hunting is scarce my gear kit has never seen any more than 5 140rd pods at one time. I am often in the front half of the field even though I can light up any person on the field from the the base. So I deffenitaly consider myself a Longword and not a wander tank of death.

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:32 PM

View PostGH Militia Man, on Jan 12 2007, 07:33 PM, said:

For some reason I find this debate about paint load amusing, but it has only re-enforced my theory of how there are different types of Broadswords; light (Long Sword's*) and heavy (Battle Axe's**). The Special Ops Positions are more like guide lines for players, as many before me have said, but from what I have experienced the Broadsword has had the widest range variation compared to all the other positions.

With the amount of paint I shoot you may ask why I don't have a Hammer when my single A-5 A-2 Battle Axe cost more than a stock A-5 double trouble, but I enjoy the being the equivalent of a light Hammer without the complete loss of maneuverability. With Trumpet's Q-pod I would consider him an average Broadsword, and to answer his question I think his set up is very nice and well rounded. To all of you that are having a hissy fit about having too much paint I would call you Long Sword's. I would defiantly not say that every team needs a Long Sword, a Broadsword, and a Battle Axe, but I think that comparing a Long Sword to a Battle Axe is about that same as comparing a Saber to a Broadsword.

I have played at big game scenarios and this debate reminds me of an incident which took place at the Michigan Monster Game last year where I led a squad (I am also a Squad CO) during the last quarter. Our team was losing badly, but we cleared the back 20 acres with minimal losses. After being deployed for over an hour we were finally slaughtered because a guy that I shot told a huge mod our location :dry: . Well, the point of my story is when I got back to our base came, the day was done, and I started to unload my gear-vest to realize the only paint that I still had on me was about 100 rounds left in my hopper. I wouldn't say that I shot more than necessary, but that was the day I decided that I need a bigger gear load. I thought that 1300 rounds was enough, but this spring before big game season starts I plan on picking up an Operative vest with 2 leg pod pouches and a 45/4500 to rig together with my 92/4500. With a total paint supply of about a case of paint this will also cut down on times when I have to back to base camp and restock. I may have a heavy gear load, but I still am one of the fastest members on my team.

I have seen a lot of players who call themselves Broadsword's, and almost everyone of them has a different interpretation of the position. I try to spread the concepts of the Long Sword and the Battle Axe because some like to set themselves apart from the standard position where the "norm" isn't very common. So lets stop this stop this petty little argument about paint loads and just accept that everyone has their own way of doing things.

* I first saw the term Long Sword used for a light Broadsword by MASTER OF PAINTBALLS in this thread, and I wanted to make sure he gets the term coining right for it.

** I'm not looking for a copy right here, but I just want to claim term coining rights to the name Battle Axe as a heavy Broadsword. I came up with it with some friends, and so far I have not seen anyone else use the term before me.



If thats the case then I guess I'm a "battle axe" carrying 1450 paintballs onto the field and no i don't as of yet have enough air to fire them all but the last big game I was in I was put on as general security you know make sure the general is safe at all times and just so happened he didn't have enough paint so the extra pods came in very handy.
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