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Promaster or E cocker? Rate Topic: -----

Poll: What one? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

which one?

  1. Promaster (15 votes [62.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.50%

  2. E Cocker (9 votes [37.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.50%

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#1 User is offline   kingcole 

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 02:27 PM

Dang I know this has been done to many times. The whole help me choose my new gun thing, but I don't think their has been one between a cocker and a promaster. I just want you to know a little bit about how I play. I am going to use this almost exclusively for speed. I play agressive, I love the crazy looks you get doing a superman dive into the snake. So if one is wimpy I wouldn't like it, it's not like I land on my gun, but it does get clunked around alittle. I am not a huge fan of firepower, but I want a gun that can do it anyway. I am purchasing a halo, and a 68 4.5k tank, with it. I would like to know what one weights more also. I don't know what cocker, but think under $350, with an Electro ups. I do not know how to maintain a cocker as of now, but could learn. I do want ramping capabilities, I know the promaster has this stock. So what do you think?

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 02:30 PM

get the promaster it is a E cocker on steroids
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Posted 26 September 2006 - 02:37 PM

how so, the cocker is a sheridan, the promaster is a poppet?
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Posted 26 September 2006 - 03:53 PM

promaster, cockers are way too complex, and promasters can be upgraded more+is overall fatser and lighter
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Posted 26 September 2006 - 04:08 PM

first cockers are the most upgradable guns ever made so no the promaster is not more upgradable.
The promaster has better eye,ram system,noid,board,lpr system,qevs,and is lighter.
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Posted 26 September 2006 - 04:31 PM

definitely the promaster.
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Posted 26 September 2006 - 06:29 PM

Ok promaster it is. Does anyone know a rough estemate as to how long the full marker maintanance would take? would it take 10 minutes or a half hour? Also, do you think having it clink against the ground alittle will hurt it, or should I just be more worried about my HPA tank?

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 06:45 PM

worry more about gouging your hpa :laugh:
It has enough alumanim to be sturdy and isnt hard to take apart.
Reg maintanance and lpr maintanance should take like 5 minuites and bolt and ram takes like 1.
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Posted 26 September 2006 - 06:51 PM

View PostION KING, on Sep 26 2006, 02:30 PM, said:

get the promaster it is a E cocker on steroids

Lol. No.

View PostYOU DON'T NEED A NAME, on Sep 26 2006, 03:53 PM, said:

promaster, cockers are way too complex, and promasters can be upgraded more+is overall fatser and lighter

Wow. You know nothing about E-cockers. They require less maintenance than a Shocker (almost any high end), but you're putting them down because they have a complex design? Learn how it works and you can fix almost any cocker problem you have. Promasters cannot be upgraded more by the way.

I would go used E-cocker. They aren't extremely light, but are fast, have a low resale (buy used) and are very quiet. Tried lots of promasters and I hate them. Don't go promaster. There's a reason why cockers have been selling for almost 20 years straight.

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 06:56 PM

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Promasters cannot be upgraded more by the way.

And you were saying others don't know what that are talking about......really?

I, a Promaster owner, can tell you that you sir, are wrong. I have an aftermarket feedneck, CP reg and of course a barrel. All of which are upgrades. You can get new triggers, you can get a Predator board, you can get LPR and a Volumizer. So, before we are quick to talk maybe we should check out the facts.

Promaster, it's really easy to work on. It's tough as hell. I think I've PMed you about this before.

I'm interested to know what it is about the Promaster you don't like. I have yet to find a problem that isn't a 5 second fix.

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 06:57 PM

i owned a cocker(e cocker) i waisted 500 on it(gun cost 300 used). It was the worst gun i ever had the displeasure of owning. It would break down and had horrible batter life. THe eyes were lowsy and the trigger frame was for an infant.
Other people love them and have many of them and feel they are great.
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 11:51 AM

cockers have WAYYYYY more upgrades, they are THE most upgradeable gun. 20 years and parts produced by most aftermarket = a LOT of upgrades. the promaster does have upgrades, but not nearly the amount of an autococker.

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that is not all of them, but is just a sample, the 'cocker has more subdivisions that the promaster has items total.

unless you want a cool gun to turn pump, i say go promaster. i've owned a e-cocker but it just wasn't worth it.

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 12:35 PM

One more thing with cocker ups is the cocker has many peices and the pm has much fewer, so fewer ups are made in 2years .
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 01:28 PM

View PostDavidP1013, on Sep 26 2006, 06:56 PM, said:

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Promasters cannot be upgraded more by the way.

And you were saying others don't know what that are talking about......really?

I, a Promaster owner, can tell you that you sir, are wrong. I have an aftermarket feedneck, CP reg and of course a barrel. All of which are upgrades. You can get new triggers, you can get a Predator board, you can get LPR and a Volumizer.

Triggers, Pred. Board, LPR, Volumizer, Reg, Feedneck, Barrel? Hell you can get all that stuff with basically any high-end. With cockers you can get rams, bodies, lprs, solenoids (front and rear), valves, hammers, IVGs, QEVS...Of course you can have basically all of those on Promasters, but there are things you can't put on other guns, such as cocking rods, back blocks, beavertails, pump arms, timing rods, 3-ways, as well as custom stuff like mini-ing, half blocking and other things like that.

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Promaster, it's really easy to work on. It's tough as hell. I think I've PMed you about this before.

I'm interested to know what it is about the Promaster you don't like. I have yet to find a problem that isn't a 5 second fix.

When you time an E-cocker once (all you do is basically adjust the back block) it will stay timed forever. The design is complex but it allows for quick maintenance, but if you don't know what you're doing, you're screwed.

Need to adjust velocity? Adjust it through your reg like all other guns. Need to lube or clean your bolt? Take out the bolt pin and the bolt slides out. The only difference between E-cockers and blow forward open bolt high ends is the design.

I guess I am just different, but I love cockers, which not a lot of people on this forum (at least) do. I really don't understand why people are against cockers. They can be as fast, as accurate, as efficient, as consistant and as reliable as any other marker.

I guess I just got a cocker that works. Lol.
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 03:22 PM

View Postpoor stocker, on Sep 26 2006, 02:37 PM, said:

how so, the cocker is a sheridan, the promaster is a poppet?

They are basically the same thing. Promaster is electropneumatic and cocker is a sear tripper.

Cockers are very nice. Fast, quiet efficient. I would get the Ecocker, they can be termpermental but not usually. Once you get them working they work great.
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