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Poll: Ghillie or not to ghillie (228 member(s) have cast votes)

Ghillie or not to ghillie

  1. Ghillie (178 votes [78.07%])

    Percentage of vote: 78.07%

  2. Not to ghillie (50 votes [21.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.93%

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#16 User is offline   tacsnipa 

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 01:56 PM

View Postc4will2, on Sep 25 2006, 07:48 PM, said:

Ya the point of a sniper is to lie in wait and ambush. w/o a ghillie suit you are just a saber on his belly
Ya that pretty much hits the nail on the head.
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Posted 26 September 2006 - 05:55 PM

View Posttacsnipa, on Sep 26 2006, 03:56 PM, said:

View Postc4will2, on Sep 25 2006, 07:48 PM, said:

Ya the point of a sniper is to lie in wait and ambush. w/o a ghillie suit you are just a saber on his belly
Ya that pretty much hits the nail on the head.
Yeah, but you don't have to just lie in wait. You can also stalk and ghost flank and still be a sniper. The differance between a sniper and saber is that you depend more on your stealth skills and your less dependent on others. Usually.

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 07:06 PM

Ghillie.
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 03:16 AM

View Postc4will2, on Sep 25 2006, 06:48 PM, said:

Ya the point of a sniper is to lie in wait and ambush. w/o a ghillie suit you are just a saber on his belly


If you're on your belly, your barely even in the game.
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 08:31 AM

View PostMontresor, on Sep 27 2006, 05:16 AM, said:

View Postc4will2, on Sep 25 2006, 06:48 PM, said:

Ya the point of a sniper is to lie in wait and ambush. w/o a ghillie suit you are just a saber on his belly


If you're on your belly, your barely even in the game.
Not really. Not if you position your self in a good spot where the enemy travels through often. Hey Montresor. Are you even a sniper?

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 01:06 PM

If you got the bucks get an action ghillie. Ive seen pics its good. Look for action ghillie pics in the camo section. :D
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 03:37 PM

View PostThe_Joker, on Sep 27 2006, 08:31 AM, said:

Not really. Not if you position your self in a good spot where the enemy travels through often. Hey Montresor. Are you even a sniper?
Yeah thats basically what I do, I walk the field before the game and run to my spot if not close to it and crawl the rest of the way aas soon as the game starts. I basically crawl into enemy territroy. I dont as many kills but where I position myself, I get a good view on the territory, which is good for recon.
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 03:48 PM

View PostThe_Joker, on Sep 27 2006, 10:31 AM, said:

Not really. Not if you position your self in a good spot where the enemy travels through often. Hey Montresor. Are you even a sniper?


No. I am enlightened. I am a paintballer. I stalk and eliminate my prey unseen and alone with 1 to 3 shots with or without fancy equipment or heavy camoflauge. I feel that this qualifies me as your 'sniper'. But I'll run headlong into a heavy firefight if that's what needs to be done. I make combat decisions based on tactical necessity, rather than limiting myself to a job description, like any dynamic, motivated sniper, operator, or CQB would. In my opinion, what most of you refer to as a 'sniper' doesn't exist. You would call me a 'saber', based upon your self-imposed limitations and insistence that there are different positions in paintball, despite the irrefutable fact that all markers do the same thing (shoot a paint-filled capsule at approximately 300 feet per second).

The only problem I have with that is that you'll flame me for it. I have no problem with what you do (crawl, ghillie, etc.). I stopped doing it because it got boring. It started to feel more like hiding to me. Now I spend less on gear than almost anyone at my field, yet even my most seasoned players (one is a Division III NPPL champion who's been ballin' in and out of the woods for 15+ years) hesitate when they have to go through me. Even when I'm outnumbered 6 to 1 by them. I'm not the best player in the world, not by far. But I'm not bad :) . Sure, I could be making it all up, but ask yourself if I sound like it.

If you enjoy what you do, if it's fun for you, then keep doing it! You don't need my approval. And you certainly don't have to agree with anything I say. As long as one respects our sport and has fun, I've got no serious problem with him/her. But from where I stand now, either you can ball, or you can't. I doesn't matter what you're wearing, what you're shooting, or what kind of field you're standing on when you do it.

If you take only one thing away from this rant, make sure it's this. I've played more often than most of the people I've met who claim over 15 years of experience. I do not give speculative advice without stating it as such. In short, I know my poop. So dismissing anything I say based solely on the fact that I don't fit into Spec Ops' definition of 'elite', would be a mistake.

This post has been edited by Montresor: 27 September 2006 - 04:21 PM

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 04:59 PM

View PostMontresor, on Sep 27 2006, 05:48 PM, said:

No. I am enlightened. I am a paintballer. I stalk and eliminate my prey unseen and alone with 1 to 3 shots with or without fancy equipment or heavy camoflauge. I feel that this qualifies me as your 'sniper'. But I'll run headlong into a heavy firefight if that's what needs to be done. I make combat decisions based on tactical necessity, rather than limiting myself to a job description, like any dynamic, motivated sniper, operator, or CQB would. In my opinion, what most of you refer to as a 'sniper' doesn't exist. You would call me a 'saber', based upon your self-imposed limitations and insistence that there are different positions in paintball, despite the irrefutable fact that all markers do the same thing (shoot a paint-filled capsule at approximately 300 feet per second).

The only problem I have with that is that you'll flame me for it. I have no problem with what you do (crawl, ghillie, etc.). I stopped doing it because it got boring. It started to feel more like hiding to me. Now I spend less on gear than almost anyone at my field, yet even my most seasoned players (one is a Division III NPPL champion who's been ballin' in and out of the woods for 15+ years) hesitate when they have to go through me. Even when I'm outnumbered 6 to 1 by them. I'm not the best player in the world, not by far. But I'm not bad :o . Sure, I could be making it all up, but ask yourself if I sound like it.

If you enjoy what you do, if it's fun for you, then keep doing it! You don't need my approval. And you certainly don't have to agree with anything I say. As long as one respects our sport and has fun, I've got no serious problem with him/her. But from where I stand now, either you can ball, or you can't. I doesn't matter what you're wearing, what you're shooting, or what kind of field you're standing on when you do it.

If you take only one thing away from this rant, make sure it's this. I've played more often than most of the people I've met who claim over 15 years of experience. I do not give speculative advice without stating it as such. In short, I know my poop. So dismissing anything I say based solely on the fact that I don't fit into Spec Ops' definition of 'elite', would be a mistake.
O_O Wow. Long post. Okay. I'll try to reply to most of it as my ADD memory can. =P In referance to the whole having lots of gear, camo and all that, I agree. I don't plan on having a butt load of camo or other goodies, my markers won't be the fastest shooting nor the most expensive. They'll work for me. That's it. Also, I don't flame. I hate flamers. They annoy me and upset me. And I know what you mean about people hesitating about going up against you. I'm not one of the players people are afraid to go up against, but I know a team that is like that because they're well known for being tough, but good guys. Also, if you don't agree with all the fancy smancy classes, okay. Doesn't matter. It's your decision, not mine. You believe what you wish and so shall I. For myself, I do believe in the different classes. I do believe there is such a thing as a sniper in paintball. But that's my opinion.

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 05:20 PM

By the way...You got your camos mixed up. Realtree is passive, and MARPAT is active...Also ghillie is both.
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 04:12 AM

Who says being on your belly means your barely in the game? We played last weekend, I ran to a good clump of pines, then crawled through them to the edge. We were playing 3 on 3 capture the flag and I picked off 2 out of the three guys from that spot. The third guy could figure out where I was so he fell back near the base! You can move in a ghillie, you just have to use your surronding well and know when to move and when not too!
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 04:17 AM

What I meant by a ghillie that allows movement is not one that keeps you hidden while you're walking but one that doesn't get hung up on every thorn vine and twig. The suits I am referring to only cover your head, shoulders and arms and upper torso. This allows you to move more freely through dense woods; ghillie suits.com calls them "ponchos." :P
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Posted 04 November 2006 - 07:49 PM

A ghillie helps, but there are pros and cons. We play in dense woods and I've had numerous players walk within 10 feet of me and not see me with nothing but BDUs. Use proper cover and be patient (but those mosquitoes keep buzzing in my ears when I don't want to move!)
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Posted 02 December 2006 - 05:03 PM

If you are looking for a light weight, fast, and quite cheap style of ghillie I would recommend doing something like the shadow ghillie show in this link:Shadow Ghillie

This allows you to be light weight (a trend that is seeming to get more and more popular), and it is still pretty cheap (the prices for the rifle rag, and density upgrade are cut down for Christmas/stock room clearing :(), and it still provides a good amount of concealment.
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Posted 06 December 2006 - 03:10 PM

You'll never get me in a full ghille suit. When I do decide that the game calls for more concealment, like when players are spread out into smaller units, or elimination I alter my camo in such a way that I keep my mobility and reduce my detectability.

Camo facepaint for my mask, dark on the cheek and other reflective areas, light on the sunken in areas. attach some foliage, burlap or old shredded BDU's in some of the vent holes and on stick some on top of my visor. I either use a hood or a large boonie hat to break up my outline more, often add some burlap etc. to that as well. Same goes for my web gear, pods and gun. My gun is painted camo, but I add sort of a ghille sock over the barrel, break up the hopper outline(if I don't use a 45 round hopper) and make damn sure that steel braided hose is covered. I eliminate anything shiney or noisey, and anything that can snag. I wear simple, cheap camo jersey gloves, and try to keep any of my pale skin from showing.

The most important thing is presenting a view to your target that doesn't look like a person. How you position yourself with the surroundings, light and shadow has the best effect. A kid in a ghille in the wrong place is going to get spotted more easily. I played a winter game once in snow camo. No ghile anything, just a baggy outift that matched the surroundings and used the contrast between shadows and evergreens and reflective snow. My own team had trouble keeping track of me and I was never too far away for them to provide covering fire. Our small team managed to win MVT of the game. Being light, mobile and hard to spot had a lot to do with the points we racked up before the action moved into the hedgerows and fortifications.

Just how you wear your camo has an effect. If you just let everything hang there it's going to make you look more like a person, the eye will be drawn to you. Blousing it out over a pistol belt and making it billow in odd places will break you up.

This setup works well for me. It's light and fast, doesn't get too hot and doesn't get me overshot. I've shot too many people in ghillies just to have them keep playing, I don't like bonus balling people but if I see someone in a ghille I keep shooting them until they call themselves out. Montresor seems to know what he's talking about.
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