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#16 User is offline   Thorax 

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Posted 25 September 2006 - 02:37 PM

View PostTool-of-death, on Sep 24 2006, 04:26 PM, said:


98 customs are horable guns, they are a pain in the neck to take apart and clean and are made out of cheap as materials.


May I ask how the 98 Custom is hard to take apart and clean? The matierials may be cheap, but have you ever heard of a broken 98 Custom? I've heard of messed up 98 Customs, but those are usually from user error. A broken 98 custom however, never.

And they are certainly not horrible. They very customiziable, can be very accurate with a good barrel, can be quieted dramaticly with the Rocket Cock 2. The only problem I see with the 98 Custom is its weight.
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Posted 25 September 2006 - 04:20 PM

View PostThorax, on Sep 25 2006, 02:37 PM, said:

View PostTool-of-death, on Sep 24 2006, 04:26 PM, said:


98 customs are horable guns, they are a pain in the neck to take apart and clean and are made out of cheap as materials.


May I ask how the 98 Custom is hard to take apart and clean? The matierials may be cheap, but have you ever heard of a broken 98 Custom? I've heard of messed up 98 Customs, but those are usually from user error. A broken 98 custom however, never. my 98 went down on me three weeks after I took it out of the box
It's hard to clean because of the clamshell design. Something like a spyder pull one pin and the guts fall out the back


And they are certainly not horrible. They very customiziable, can be very accurate with a good barrel, can be quieted dramaticly with the Rocket Cock 2. The only problem I see with the 98 Custom is its weight. I call COW SHIZZLE on this one. I had a RCII on my tippmann and noticed no difference in the sounds signature. They are loud guns, deal with it.
Customizeable only in the cosmetic sense.
about as accurate as a blowback can be. Higher ends shoot way better than tippmanns.


Your first gun pick up a spyder, 'mag or cocker. Then be happy with your choice.
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Posted 25 September 2006 - 05:15 PM

A-5 definatly many many mods and it just feels right in your hands. Start off stock and gradually work up to getting mods. You wont be dissapointed with a Tippmann A-5.

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Posted 25 September 2006 - 06:44 PM

a tippmann they are all good muliti use upgradeable guns!!!!!!!!!!!!! ya tippmann
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Posted 25 September 2006 - 06:50 PM

Cocker! 04's are $170 now and it is the only gun you will ever need.
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Posted 25 September 2006 - 07:28 PM

98c... hands down.

i rushed out and bought a spyder tl-r, which is a good gun (easy to clean... REALLY easy), but i ender up shooting myself in the foot for personalization (which i really like to do).

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 03:32 PM

cocker>tippman
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 04:32 AM

View Postfurple, on Sep 26 2006, 05:32 PM, said:

cocker>tippman


For the love of cream-filled, glazed Jesus, would you knock it off? I've got a Prostock that I actually slept next to when I recieved it. Yes, I love the 'cocker (go ahead, get it out of your system), and I'm sick of hearing this crap! We get it! You think the 'cocker is the only gun out there worth owning.

In reality, however, it's a horrible gun for most first-timers. They usually won't understand them and won't take the time to learn. This will just hasten what is likely to be an already short paintball experience for them. For most fng's the cocker is a better 3rd or 4th gun. They're not gonna learn unless they want to, so quit trying to make 'em.

As for this Spyder/Tippy, Mickey Mouse/Donald Duck crap.....

If your Tippy/Spyder is broken and you can't fix it, it's because you don't know your poop. Although I do have to help more Spyder owners right before the first game of the day, I think it's because you can find a Spyder for less money and those $20 Spyder players don't bother learning or cleaning their poop before they come out to the field.

The 'mysterious failures' that folks find in either gun are usually simple fixes that any experienced field owner should be able to troubleshoot in seconds. If it's some kind of complete breakdown (valve is shot), you just call Tippmann and get new internals for free, or buy a Spyder valve for cheap-as-hell from your nearest dealer. If you nooblets wanna keep at it, make a Tippy/Spyder flame forum or just go back to your marker rooms and jerk off privately. Meantime, lets actually help this kid or let the thread DIE.

Where are the mods?

Incidentally, how did your Tippy 'go down' and do you still own it? I'll try to troubleshoot ya so you've still got the backup gun.

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As the owner/operator of a field for the last 3 years, I suggest that you go with a Tippmann or a Spyder. All of my rentals are Tippmanns, so I prefer them, but that's just because I keep more spare parts around for them. Find out what your local field carries before you buy anything. For your first gun, you're better off buying one that your local field knows really well. That way, you're never down for long and they can teach you everything about it.
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 07:10 PM

Get a Phantom. Read this.. Buy this.

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Posted 28 September 2006 - 09:19 PM

didnt read the post...to lazy.....but get something cheap i would say a 98c or something from walmart

i started with a vl orion from walmart
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Posted 28 September 2006 - 09:29 PM

View PostAftershock, on Sep 25 2006, 05:15 PM, said:

A-5 definatly many many mods and it just feels right in your hands. Start off stock and gradually work up to getting mods. You wont be dissapointed with a Tippmann A-5.



View PostMontresor, on Sep 27 2006, 04:32 AM, said:

View Postfurple, on Sep 26 2006, 05:32 PM, said:

cocker>tippman

In reality, however, it's a horrible gun for the mechanically ignorant.

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If you're not mechanically inclined or don't want to spend the two days getting aquainted with the mechanics of a cocker buy an automag. I've played with both and as far as mechs go they are top of the line.
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Posted 29 September 2006 - 10:22 AM

easy go with the tippmann 98 custom...
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Posted 30 September 2006 - 07:59 AM

Phantom if you like pump. Blackcell Ion if you don't.
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Posted 30 September 2006 - 09:37 AM

get an ion. they're $200. and youll also need a compresed air tank. You can use a grivty fed hopper untill you have enough cash for a good one. It wont chop (break balls inside the gun becuase the loader didn't load fast enough) because it has eyes.

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 10:40 AM

I'd start with a tippmann, then you can get an expensive electro.
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