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#1 User is offline   Puzuma 

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 04:48 PM

With Ebay and paypal you have to be 18+ to set up an account. That's something many of our members here are unable to do. In attempt to allow the younger members to acquire the gear they want at a lower price Special Ops Paintball has allowed two B/S/T sections to be set up, one for paintball gear and one for other items.

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1- All sellers MUST set up a thread in the Members Feedback area. Links to other forums/Ebay feed back is recomended.

2- Any agreements made between the seller and buyer are between them and them alone. Failure for a deal to go through is not the responsibility of Special Ops Paintball.

3- B/S/T threads MUST be placed in the proper area(PB or non PB items). Failure to place in the appropriate area will result in the add being deleted, not moved.

4- Any business based threads MUST be approved by the Special Ops Paintball STORE staff. Failure to do so will result in the thread being deleted. Failure to state what SpecOPs Store staff approved the thread will also result in deletion. NO EXCEPTIONS.

5- Ripping off members is a serious offence. If you recieve your items or payment and do not follow through on your end in a reasonable ammount of time (7 business days) your IP information and a copy of the thread can and will be given to the victim so they may file criminal charges. This will result in you being permantly banned from this site.

The reason for the change is that the original set of rules was ok when we had just a few members but we keep growing and on occasion the staff gets a PM demanding that someone get banned from the forum becasue they didn't carry through on thier end of the deal.

Step One: Research. That's right. Buying or selling requires research. Check out other forums, go to your local shops, check out Ebay and see what price the item goes for.


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Step Two: Pricing. You done the research. You found out that the Diquasi Framstamualtor you have sells used for between $10.00 and $15.00 and that those prices do not include shipping. Selling your framstamulator for $45.00 , even with shipping included probably won't sell quickly if at all. Keep the price within the market norm but with the "or best offer" qualifier. That way if you get several offers you can take the highest and maybe get more than you are asking.

Step Three: Placing the add- Word it clearly. State what it is and describe the condition it's in. Avoid "Make me an offer" even if you are willing to accept trades, be specific about what's acceptable as a trade. Make sure you have a firm "Will not let go for less than" in mind. Do not publish it because people will automatically try to buy it at that price.

Step Four: Feedback - People want to know they can trust you. You need to establish that you are a good business person to deal with. If you have sold ANYTHING on any other forum, add a link to that forum and allow people to see all of your feedback. Do not be offended if someone asks if they can contact a previous sale directly.

Step Five: Records - Keep records, both digital and paper. You will need to keep notes on private messages and instant messanger conversations regarding the transaction. Take screen shots even. Should something go wrong you will want to have the burden of proof on your side. This will include transaction details such as who sends first, weather or not a third party is involed etc.

Step Six: Address confirmation - So you've got a firm commitment from someone. Good. Got their home/mailing address? Great. Now you need to confirm it. Sending a letter without a recipients name on the envelope isn't a bad idea. Simply state in the letter who you are and why you are sending the letter. Ask if the person you are dealing with does infact reside there. Either have them phone you or send a letter back. Check with 411.com as well, they have a reverse address and phone number look up.

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Step Two: Pricing. You done the research. You found out that the Diquasi Framstamualtor you want sells used for between $10.00 and $15.00 and that those prices do not include shipping. Most sellers are willing to haggle or have a predetermined minimum price. That $17.00 Framstamulator you're looking at is a starting price.

Step Three: Reseach some more. Based on the add you've found it looks like THIS is the item you want! Now you need to research the seller. Does he have feedback anywhere else on the internet? Is he/she selling the item someplace else as well? Are you able to contact any of the previous people that bought from the seller? How smoothly did other transactions go?

Step Four: Records - Keep records, both digital and paper. You will need to keep notes on private messages and instant messanger conversations regarding the transaction. Take screen shots even. Should something go wrong you will want to have the burden of proof on your side. This will include transaction details such as who sends first, weather or not a third party is involed etc.

Step Five: Address confirmation - So you've got a firm commitment from someone. Good. Got their home/mailing address? Great. Now you need to confirm it. Sending a letter without a recipients name on the envelope isn't a bad idea. Simply state in the letter who you are and why you are sending the letter. Ask if the person you are dealing with does infact reside there. Either have them phone you or send a letter back. Check with 411.com as well, they have a reverse address and phone number look up.
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Posted 04 November 2006 - 09:01 PM

Well done Puzuma, hopes that helps people, but shouldnt this be posted in the B/S/T?
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Posted 11 November 2006 - 06:09 PM

No, he's Puzuma he can post were ever he wants now leave him alone befor he ban's you lol.


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Posted 27 December 2006 - 09:41 PM

nvm

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Posted 27 December 2006 - 10:07 PM

nvm

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 04:28 PM

View PostPuzuma, on Sep 5 2006, 04:48 PM, said:

5- Ripping off members is a serious offence. If you recieve your items or payment and do not follow through on your end in a reasonable ammount of time (7 business days) your IP information and a copy of the thread can and will be given to the victim so they may file criminal charges. This will result in you being permantly banned from this site.



Puzuma ; double check with special ops on this as I'm not 100% sure , but : by law - a person or retail establisment has up to 30 days to deliver the items purchased before a formal complaint can be filed with the appropriate authorities
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 07:16 PM

Its specops website they make the rules, simple. Thats a federal regulation possibly? Maybe an ebay regulation?
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 01:41 PM

Upon reading it, I belive the implication is that you should receive a PM/phone call/whatever confirming that your payment has been received and that the item(s) in question have been shipped. This letter should likely also contain contact info.

Then, when two weeks go by and you don't have your tank, you can phone buddy and say hey : did you ship my acme paint-nuke ?

Most people will never have to come into contact with the enforcement of these rules (7 day or otherwise) because they will be mature about what they are doing, exchange info, and politely ship their goods.

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 10:30 AM

View Postdman, on Nov 5 2006, 12:01 AM, said:

but shouldnt this be posted in the B/S/T?


My thoughts exactly.

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 04:19 AM

thanks
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Posted 08 July 2007 - 07:41 PM

puz can place it anywhere he wants because hes puz and hes got the blow-up hammer
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Posted 18 July 2007 - 05:56 AM

Great info.

Posting this in the B/S/T section would be a good idea also...
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Posted 07 October 2007 - 11:39 PM

Another good tip about trading/ selling gear:

Keep your serial numbers of your equipment together, or some way to identify them. It's a good idea to also take pictures of the items you have with the numbers as well. This way, if you get ripped off, you can prove to the authorities that the merchanise is yours.
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 11:32 AM

Keep in mind: Penalties for a person's behavior on the forums may interfere with their ability to communicate via PM's. You are strongly encouraged to establish other means of communication (whether via IM, email, or other means) for use in case the forum becomes unavailable. Special Ops Paintball or its Forum Staff are not responsible for any disruptions to sales or trades stemming from a user's inability to follow forum rules, and will NOT intervene or reduce punishment to enable buyers and sellers to communicate.

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Posted 30 March 2008 - 09:34 PM

I know he is puzuma and all, but why is this posted here??

Wouldn't it be of more help in the B/S/T section?
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