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#31 User is offline   protocoach 

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 08:52 AM

View Postdagger boy 98c, on Aug 9 2006, 08:31 PM, said:

How about $70-90 for the urban tiger stripe? It may seem low but i'm kind of on a budget. My parents would not like the fact that I just spent $200+ on a paint job for my marker! I'd love it - they wouldn't. :)

That's way too low, sorry. A competitive price would probably be around $180. That's Wookie's price, and I think that's around Lauer's price for their work.
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 01:49 PM

If you could drop the price $50-$100 I'd be all over the paintjobs.


Anyway you could have the customer do some of the work before they send out the gun. Like have it disasembled, cleaned up, taped off in nessecary places so when the gun gets there you would be ready to sand blast. You could even ask the cutomer if they could sand it down to the metal or some of it at least for you to save time and the customer money.

I would really love a paintjob for less so I'll keep thinking. Also not as many people see this section of the forum so maybe put it where more could see it? In turn more minds= more ideas.
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 03:37 PM

I really like the second suggestion, to find a way to get more traffic over in my small corner. May be I'll start pushing for a whole web page devoted to finishing linked to the Spec ops home page. That would get peoples attention. As for the first suggestion, I'm way to much of a control freak to allow others to do there own prep work for a discount. The prep-work is one of the most important parts of the process because, if done wrong, could cut the life of the paint job in half that and most people don't even have access to the proper equipment like sandblasters and lacquer dump tanks. Thanks though and it gives me a different idea. I'll post it in a different blog though.

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 03:54 PM

One Idea I just had, what if I sold different levels of quality in my paint jobs. I could do a lower quality paint job (quick and dirty) for a cheap price and still make it look cool. It would not last as long but for those who want to pay $100 bucks for a 4 shade digi could do it (and it would still be DuraCoat). You could buy a level one digi (high quality) or a level 2 (lower quality). I'm not sure I would like doing it because I'm a perfectionist but hey its a thought that would save you money. What do ya-all think?

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 04:50 PM

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One Idea I just had, what if I sold different levels of quality in my paint jobs. I could do a lower quality paint job (quick and dirty) for a cheap price and still make it look cool. It would not last as long but for those who want to pay $100 bucks for a 4 shade digi could do it (and it would still be DuraCoat). You could buy a level one digi (high quality) or a level 2 (lower quality). I'm not sure I would like doing it because I'm a perfectionist but hey its a thought that would save you money. What do ya-all think?


I'm tempted to like the idea of different quality paintjobs but I think it would almost defeat the purpose why someone would want it done in the first place. I personally wouldn't want the the quick and dirty/cool paintjob because I would prefer the high quality and long lasting. I'm thinking the people who want a shorter term paintjob would just go and buy spray paint and paint there marker using the how to threads that float around.

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 07:05 PM

Hey Micah,

I need to get a price list or quote for a few guns i need painted, can you help?
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 09:27 PM

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 05:00 PM

Okay...for the stencils...I'm thinking like form fitting plastic mold with rough cut areas for painting. Then around the edge of those areas...the flanges like are at the bottom of doors you know? have them at about a 45* angle toward the work piece so they'll press up against and get a decent edge.

PM me if you need a more in depth description...(i'll try to work up some illustrations if you PM)

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 01:23 PM

We thought of that as a possibility before but never ran with it. The tooling to get it done,vacuum molding and CNC programs to cut out the digi, would have been way to expensive for the demand and so we didn't move forward with it and looked to other alternatives. It still is a possibility if I can find a way to cut the digi out that would look near perfect without using a CNC machine.
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Posted 15 August 2006 - 01:30 PM

Well...you dont really need a form fitting stencil...

Just something that presses a good edge on the marker...

That cuts back some of your costs if you have one stencil that works on all markers...

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 01:32 PM

The coolest idea I ever had is to have something that conformed to any surface and had pre cut digi on it. That way you could digi anything of any shape and size. I tried using memory foam (ya know that stuff they use on the "intela-bed") with digital cut out in it but the cut outs would warp when I bent it. It was a cool idea worthy of the good old college try but the results weren't good enough.

The reason I brought this up is to give you something to work with- The initial idea of having something to conform to any shape and size yet still hold the digital shape. What do ya think, can it be done... and how?
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Posted 15 August 2006 - 01:36 PM

How about a thin frame around the edge of the foam a that will bend to match the shape...but not bend side to side along the face of the marker...

That may be confusing...Uhh...wont bend along the face of the marker, but will bend to match shapes...

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 01:41 PM

View PostTenacious221, on Aug 15 2006, 02:30 PM, said:

Well...you dont really need a form fitting stencil...

Just something that presses a good edge on the marker...

That cuts back some of your costs if you have one stencil that works on all markers...

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Agreed, but we already do this with our A5-A2's and it does drop the price about $150.00-$200.00 or so. But the down side is, there is allot of ghosting and and imperfections. The stencils have about run there course and it's time to make some new ones, better, faster, and cheaper. Your ideas are good Tenacious221, don't stop there.
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Posted 15 August 2006 - 02:09 PM

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Okay... You can see the top view, and side views...nothing really technical about it. The engineering comes with the seal and the cuts

I like your idea about the memory foam, and I incoorperated it, it makes my idea work much better...

Okay, Bottom view, you see the flexable seal I was talking about...it will depress closer to the stencil when pressed down, and the foam will hold it forward in depressed points.

That was my first idea...but then i realized you'd have some problems with crevases and lines. So I got to thinking...what if the seal was seperate...it would be able to conform better to corners and lines because it wouldnt have to curve over the obsticals, it could jump them...

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 03:19 PM

I like. I'll be caught up in a few weeks so I'll have to try this one out. So let me get it straight though, you take small squares of metal (I would probably you thin semi-stiff plastic for some fudge factor) and cut out the digi in it and adhere it to the foam? I'll have to think about it but I think your on to something.

Another old idea I had is to paint with stamps like sponge painting. Hmmmm, maybe I should try that out, it could be like a faux camouflage (and yes faux is a word, it sounds like foe) :blink: .

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