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#1 User is offline   TogaLive 

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Posted 23 June 2006 - 10:05 PM

Hey guys just saying hi and wondering if anybody else shoots a surge gun. personally i love them! yeah there is absolutely no technical support but it doesnt matter, fixing your gun urself is the way to being a good pball player. anyways surge players post here!
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EDIT: LOL The Moderator moved this to autocockers when its an electric blowback. Just plane funny because it doesnt even look like an autococker and yet i have had ten people tell me it is when they dont even have one. i have one, i think i would know. no offense mod

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Posted 24 June 2006 - 06:24 AM

pics or link because i have no idea what a surge gun is...
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Posted 24 June 2006 - 12:14 PM

Aren't those spyder clones?
Why is this in the autococker section?
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Posted 24 June 2006 - 12:56 PM

its GOOGLE TIME!

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dude...thats not an autococker.
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Posted 24 June 2006 - 01:40 PM

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Posted 24 June 2006 - 06:48 PM

what is it? a spyderclone?
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Posted 25 June 2006 - 09:14 AM

Yes, it's an electronic spyder clone.
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Posted 25 June 2006 - 02:56 PM

yeah dude surge guns are like the absolute best in my opinion. they have everything that a high end has while keeping the price low and the quality at its best. for instance the bonez LCD comes stock for about 250. Here is some info.

The Grip

The .45 style grip is on the large size yet the grip covers are about 1/4" thick, producing an overall grip good for medium to large hands. Smaller-handed players will stretch a bit.

Except if bright sunlight directly hits the grip cover, in testing the LCD could be read through the left side. Do a little experimenting--we found the LCD easier to read when looking at it from a slight angle rather than straight on.

There are two finger grooves on the front of the grip cover, and for large hands, enough room for two fingers below the trigger guard.

The double finger trigger is deeply scalloped but drops almost straight down. This trigger is not adjustable.

The battery compartment is inside the grip, with no recharge port. If the battery gets low, the battery symbol on the display changes to an outline (that is, you see an "empty battery"), and blinks once per second. If you notice misfires, check the battery status.


Barrel

Because of the unusual two piece barrel design, you have the choice of using the highly ported front end to give a seven inch barrel, or adding a six inch non-ported base piece to create a 12 inch barrel. The front piece threads into the body of the marker or into the front of the base piece.

All the threaded connections are Spyder/Piranha compatible. The base piece bore measured a very consistent .692 inches all the way from front to back, measured with a Stan Baker Bore Gauge (bore micrometer) from Brownells (brownells.com). The front piece bore was .710 inches.

We had two barrels to test with. The machine work on the bores was excellent, with less than half a thousandth variation within the bore of either piece. However, on barrel #1, the threads on the front piece were not concentric with the axis of the bore. This threw the axis of the front piece out of alignment with the axis of the base piece. Thus instead of having a uniform .009" step going into the front piece, one side of the two bores lined up, and the other side had an .018" step.

The second barrel (#2) had only a very slight misalignment of the axes of the two pieces.

In testing, barrel #1 did not perform well, not unexpectedly. It couldn't land even 50 percent of shots on a 12 inch target at 60 feet. This is rare. If you find yourself with that type accuracy, have the barrel checked by a qualified airsmith.

Barrel #2 performed better. With PMI Marballizer we parked an average of 15 shots out of 20 on the 12 inch target at 60 feet. Much better. Repeating with Jumbo paintballs, the results were 14 out of 20.


Electronics

On to the all-important electronic functions. Inside the Bonez LCD grip sits the electronic control board. Two buttons on the spine of the grip control it.

SW1, the lower button, turns the marker on or off, selects functions, and enters a selected parameter into memory.

SW2, the upper button, selects options and changes adjustable parameters such as the balls per second.

To turn the marker on, press and hold SW1 for two seconds. The marker displays "Bones--Eyes" and is in safety mode. Push SW2 and the marker changes to "fire" mode. The display shows whether the marker is in semi-auto or full-auto mode, and shows the balls per second setting. Push SW2 again, and the marker toggles to the other mode. Push and hold SW2 for about two seconds and the marker toggles to safety mode.

The cycles per second can be set independently for semi-auto and full-auto modes. The setting range is four to 20 balls per second.

You can monitor paint use with the shot counter, which can be reset to zero if you wish.

The timer is an excellent feature. It can be set in one minute increments up to 99 minutes. Start the countdown by pressing SW1 while in timer mode. While in the timer mode (the marker is live and can shoot), pressing SW2 switched the Bonez LCD back and forth between semi-auto and full-auto modes.

Velocity Adjuster

The velocity is adjusted using the thumbscrew at the rear of the marker. A lock-down set-screw should keep it where you set it. An included gauge shows the pressure of the air in the marker.


The Bonez LCD balls per second shooting rate can be set as low as four and as high as 20 bps, in both semi-auto and full-auto modes. At the target range where we could target practice using full-auto, we started with 10 bps. No problems with this setting. "I wouldn't want to be getting hit with that," somebody said. Upping the rate of fire to 15 bps, again, no problems. At 15 bps, the eye worked well; you can hear the "no ball no shot" difference in the shooting sequence.

I got this from Action Pursuit Games but i couldnt have said it any better myself. In my opinion it is a very high quality gun that shoots like a timmy and has all of the same features (except burst). Unfortunantly it is often mixed up with the low end electronic markers because of the manufacturers complete lack of support, but man im telling you, if you got a bonez like me and u slap a prog. tear barrel on it, somebody out on that field better be ready for an (*^ kicking!

Go to www.surgepaintball.com
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Posted 28 June 2006 - 09:31 AM

Toga- you bought HYPE. That gun is still a HIGH PRESSURE BLOWBACK marker, that (i hate to say it) will NOT shoot like a timmy, nor keep up with one, nor be as efficient as one. None of the crap you listed shows your backing that it 'has all the stuff a higher end marker does'.

I honestly doubt that thing will even keep up with, or be as efficient as my Promaster. About the only thing that gun has going in its favor, is the fact that its got eyes, a regulator (which probably should be replaced with a palmer stabalizer anyway), and an egrip.

The gun still uses a spring valve system just like a spyder, and the amount of 'adjustability' is not really worth it, when you think about it, because you're not going to constantly adjust it, you're going to find a setting you like, and leave it there, as most people do. The fact that the trigger is unadjustable makes me laugh as well, as most spyders/spyder clones allow you 2 point adjustibility. It is doubtful this gun has the cycle capability stock, or souped up, to keep up with anything other than another blowback marker. The reason you can shoot faster in a spool valve/solenoid valve system, is the sheer fact that you're not using a 'blowing force' to recock your marker, which slows cycle speed from the get go, and can cause recocking issues if your regulator cant push a high enough PSI.

For the $250, i would much rather get the new Electra 06, which is superior than this product imo, because it actually has a SUPPORT backing, unlike yet another craptastic spyder knockoff company, and the battery can freakin be RECHARGED.

Dude, do your homework. I've seen nothing but feces spew from your fingertips on here.
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