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#16 User is offline   Tfire 

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Posted 03 June 2006 - 01:47 PM

The field where I play and ref it is a courtesy, and most players when they have the drop on someone ask for a surrender. Sometimes the OPFOR will not submit to it and will get shot deciding whether it's worth it to try and outgun the attacker, but it's usually a pod or non lethal shot to a less sensitive place. I have yet to see someone jump over a barricade, yell "Surrender or Die!" and smoke the person in the head or kidneys, but I'm sure as time goes on I will.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 03:50 PM

View PostPAINTBALL_CHRISTOPHER, on Jun 2 2006, 10:23 PM, said:

I agree shoot them in the boot, but from a safe distance, if you cant do that barrle tap them and say they are out. At 15 ft. or closer certain shots from a paintball gun can seriously wound a person, possibly kill them.


Possible, but unlikely. That's the reason you wear a mask.

At 15" though, someone should be smart enough to surrend if they have no chance or turning the tides, so, if they do get shot after given the option to surrender, it's their fault.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 04:18 PM

25 foot mandatory surrender at our field. You are required to give it, not required to accept. Just like always.
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Posted 06 June 2006 - 10:33 AM

Varies wildly from field to field. One field I play at is for all practical purposes outlaw ball and the rules are whatever is agreed upon by the people playing. Another field has a "required" surrender rule, but only if you are behind the person, if you are too the side or in front (ie: coming over a bunker) they don't have to accept, if you get behind them officially they are required to take the surrender. SPPL has no surrender, no barrel tap.

In general if I'm close enough and in the right position to ask for a surrender, I just go for the barrel tap.
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Posted 06 June 2006 - 12:09 PM

25' surrender?

I'm all for safety, but that's just assinine.

15', imo is still silly, but at least thats semi-reasonable what with the range of markers.
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Posted 06 June 2006 - 02:31 PM

View PostDelta Heretic, on Jun 3 2006, 07:18 PM, said:

25 foot mandatory surrender at our field. You are required to give it, not required to accept. Just like always.


25 feet?!

You can have a legitimate gunfight in the distance of 25 feet :( :blink:
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Posted 06 June 2006 - 06:10 PM

You can have a legitimate gunfight at 15 feet, but it can be dangerous.

I'd have to say that 25" is like a n00b safety rule, no insult. It just seems too big.
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Posted 07 June 2006 - 07:23 AM

I could live with 10 feet, but 25 feet way too far. That sounds like more of a way to make money buy making players stand off and shoot more paint.
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Posted 07 June 2006 - 09:52 AM

We have a field where it's close to a football field in size...two towers on either end, with bunkers, and structures in the center.
It's pretty much a turkey shoot where apex/flatlines really make a difference.
But in the middle of the field where the structures are, it's "speedball rules" where point blank shots and bunkering is not only allowed, but encouraged.

Gets a lot of different play styles involved in a 20 x 20 players game, with your more hardcore in the middle mixing it up.
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Posted 07 June 2006 - 10:00 AM

At the field i play at its a 10 foot rule. You are asked to surender you are to put your hand and marker in the air so they know you are surrendering. If you dont it is assumed that you are trying to fight back.
Some guy tried to fight back with me and got it pretty good at about 7 feet.
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Posted 08 June 2006 - 09:33 AM

10 foot. But most of the players shoot, its sort of a reflex, ya know? (not just guys who think they are tourney ballers, even the woodsballers)
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Posted 08 June 2006 - 12:08 PM

The public Rec field I play at has a "25 Feet" rule. The thing is, you are very rarely going to get closer than that, unless it's at the end of the game and it's X on 1. I asked the owner why he had that, and said that the Insurance Company he uses has that as mandatory. He doesn't want to get a different one, because this one allows BYOP.

Occasionally someone will be making a run and not know someone is behind a bunker and close shots will occur, but 9/10 times it's one shot and no one is angry. Then there are those couple guys that "forget"....we don't really like those guys.
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Posted 16 June 2006 - 02:23 AM

View Poststrain, on Jun 2 2006, 12:55 PM, said:

Safety? A mask can take a hit at point blank range at 300fps without any problem. The rule is basically to keep people from crying and getting into fights. I play by whatever the field rules are.

It also depends on the situation. I was playing the other day at a field which had a 10-foot surrender rule. There was this kid on the opposite team who just surrendered a couple of guys on my team. He didn't see me and I was about 10 feet away from him behind a tall bush. There was also a lot of fighting around me and I wasn't sure who was where. I didn't want to waste time asking for surrender, because some one else might notice this bunch of players in one area (the other surrendered guys were still there), so I stepped back a foot or so and shot him once in the side of the head. It hurt and he wasn't happy, but this isn't golf. A head shot is the only shot I had, unfortunately, but it worked out well for me. It definitely comes down to judgment and the situation.

Also, it was pointed out to me that some fields only suggest that you surrender someone. That means it's a courtesy, not a rule. If I was playing in like a urban field and came around the corner to find someone there, I'd probably shoot, point blank or not. If it's allowed. Same thing when I run up on a bunker.



funny...

my gogs manual says to replace the lens if shot within 10 ft, regardless of any visible damage.

and for the record... it doesn't take anywhere near 300 fps to kill a person. ballistics 101: put it in the right spot.




View PostPAINTBALL_CHRISTOPHER, on Jun 2 2006, 09:23 PM, said:

I agree shoot them in the boot, but from a safe distance, if you cant do that barrle tap them and say they are out. At 15 ft. or closer certain shots from a paintball gun can seriously wound a person, possibly kill them.




had a game on memprial day and one of the players didn't surrender (we had a 20ft rule; 4 players got surrendered/bunkered by one guy who snuck up on them) and he went home bloody.

the guy was/is a punk anyway and no one is likely to invite him again but still... (maybe if he'd have been a sport about it and not started shooting at anyone who told him it was his own fault for not following suit...)
it is possible to get seriously hurt and no one really deserves it.


by all means... give them a chance and hit them hard if they don't want to play nice

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 08:58 PM

View PostPAINTBALL_CHRISTOPHER, on Jun 3 2006, 12:23 AM, said:

I agree shoot them in the boot, but from a safe distance, if you cant do that barrle tap them and say they are out. At 15 ft. or closer certain shots from a paintball gun can seriously wound a person, possibly kill them.


Unless the person it wearing an EXTREMELY small mask, I dont see how a hit anywhere on the body can kill them.
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Posted 19 June 2006 - 05:02 PM

25 feet is my rule on my field, who can really guess at 20 to 25 feet difference. Any way they may think about the distance a little more and not shoot someone at point blank or 10 feet. If you dont own a field then your not responible for getting sue. Let some whiner show's the judge and jury the bruises they will recieved at point blank or 10 feet. I spent a lot of money and time on my field and would'nt want to lose everything as well as my reg's wouldnt want to lose this field. Play fair, play safe , It's up to us to make this happen!!!!!!
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