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The past day my newsfeed on facebook has suddenly errupted into a frenzy about the Invisible Children and ther KONY 2012 campaign. Essentially,invisible children is a non profit organization that wants to stop the use of children as soliders specifically in Uganda. Their main target, Joseph Kony, a major player in the children soldiers issue. They ask people to donate to the cause, and raise awareness, with the hope that the United States will become involved and help to take out Kony.
http://s3.amazonaws....012/kony-4.html
the organizations main site, allowing people to donate and purchase shirts, posters, among other items to suppor the 'cause.
So of course, I had to do some research, as I'm not particularly willing to jump on board with organizations 100% unless I know a little bit about them. So I pulled up these two articles.
http://blog.joerenke...f1a5d8f60598268
This one basically says that the company is using the donations for their own personal game and are a complete scam. The second, again bashes the company, stating that the company backs up the army despite the accusations agains the Ugandan army of Rape and Murder.
http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/
Since it's going viral, I figured I'd ask, what's your guys take on the whole situation? And do you think America shuld be involved at all? Is it our place to step in and correct the issues of other countries, or do we just let them go their course unless they are a direct threat towards us?
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:35 AM
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:24 PM
Yeah, since I've seen all this Kony 2012 crap popping up, I've been looking in to it.
Found a lot of the same stuff you have. Like how only 1/3 of the money they brought in ($8.7 million), has actually gone to Africa, and then, it's given to the militaries there (including the Ugandan Army and Sudanese People Liberation Army, who are just slightly less worse than Kony, because they don't use Kids). Oh, and the fact that they have exaggerated the numbers of Kony's acts to make him look worse? Oh, and Kony hasn't been active in Uganda since 2006...
But throw together a good video, and profit!
This is a huge e-peen stroker for the creators... who are seen here with the Sudanese PLA!
Found a lot of the same stuff you have. Like how only 1/3 of the money they brought in ($8.7 million), has actually gone to Africa, and then, it's given to the militaries there (including the Ugandan Army and Sudanese People Liberation Army, who are just slightly less worse than Kony, because they don't use Kids). Oh, and the fact that they have exaggerated the numbers of Kony's acts to make him look worse? Oh, and Kony hasn't been active in Uganda since 2006...
But throw together a good video, and profit!
This is a huge e-peen stroker for the creators... who are seen here with the Sudanese PLA!
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 03:09 PM
It's a load of crap. I'm getting bitched at on fb for debunking half of the bs that invisible children is spreading. Don't get me wrong, Kony isn't a great person by any means, but I don't think people do a lick of research before signing on to this kind of stuff.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 05:29 PM
Not supporting them, but I hope they aren't as bad as all that
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 06:18 PM
I was wondering just what the hell that crap was.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:51 PM
I ask you this, say we do send aid there. We send our military there to try to get rid of this guy. Who will they be fighting? It seems to me (and this is just an observation) that we would be fighting against the same kids we went to liberate. Am I incorrect to assume that?
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:25 PM
am I wrong in assuming you just posted that same comment on facebook?
Kill a few to save the many?
Kill a few to save the many?
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:31 PM
Removed from Facebook, I expect better, more educated responses here.
It just seems backwards to me.
It just seems backwards to me.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:00 PM
i don't think we need to send our military anywhere to be cops, and put them in harms way for what ... a bunch of drugged up punks and warlords that are going to continue to do this for the next 1000 years ... provided they survive the alien attck on dec 21 that will shift the tektonic plates, causing massive tidal waves, and super volcanoes, and dogs and cats to have sex !
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:22 PM
That last part's just nasty, haha!
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:38 PM
Well, they also exaggerate the number of Child Soldiers he has. Cause guess what? You get an army full of 12 year olds, and that army is going to suck. Especially when you got these Militia and Warlord guys training them. Yes, there are children in his group, but he's got plenty of adults too. Those are the ones we need to deal with. Get Nintendo or Sony to drop a bunch of Gameboys or PSP's. The kids will start playing with them. They're kids, it's in their DNA.
Then, while the kids are playing Pokemon, SEALs/Delta/Whoever roll in and compromise the adult leaders to a permanent end, and roll out, leaving a bunch more AA batteries for the kids.
[Additional Thought], the more I look at the creators of this White Man's Burden propaganda holding those AKs/RPG, the more I laugh.
Then, while the kids are playing Pokemon, SEALs/Delta/Whoever roll in and compromise the adult leaders to a permanent end, and roll out, leaving a bunch more AA batteries for the kids.
[Additional Thought], the more I look at the creators of this White Man's Burden propaganda holding those AKs/RPG, the more I laugh.
This post has been edited by Pirate: 07 March 2012 - 10:40 PM
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:41 PM
I like that plan. Especially the psp and gamely part. And another flaw I have found in my question is how many of those kids are grown up now?
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 11:27 PM
Friend sent me this. The more we're looking in to it, the more we think it might be true >.>
Think about it. Stuff like this is happening all over Africa. We're trying to think of all the countries that don't have some sort of Religious or Tribal violence.
I could come up with Morocco, South Africa, and Nigeria as places "I'm pretty sure aren't screwed up". Egypt is still dealing with the Military not handing over power, or they would be on the list. So, if we send the military in to fix one problem, well we might as well stick around and fix all of them! Build military bases all over Africa! Yay Military-Industrial Complex!
Okay the image didn't work, so the link is http://imgur.com/gallery/K3mgn
Think about it. Stuff like this is happening all over Africa. We're trying to think of all the countries that don't have some sort of Religious or Tribal violence.
I could come up with Morocco, South Africa, and Nigeria as places "I'm pretty sure aren't screwed up". Egypt is still dealing with the Military not handing over power, or they would be on the list. So, if we send the military in to fix one problem, well we might as well stick around and fix all of them! Build military bases all over Africa! Yay Military-Industrial Complex!
Okay the image didn't work, so the link is http://imgur.com/gallery/K3mgn
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 12:14 AM
GUYS GUYS GUYS IT WORKED!!!! OBAMA IS SENDING SPECIAL FORCES TROOPS TO FIND THE LPA!!! INTERNET ACTIVISM WINS!!!
http://www.telegraph...ral-Africa.html
Oh wait, he did that in October... long before any of you saw that damn video...
http://www.telegraph...ral-Africa.html
Oh wait, he did that in October... long before any of you saw that damn video...
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 12:49 AM
1) this is not a new topic. The LRA has been a serious problem in central Africa for years...
Take a look at the dates on these articles:
The Economist - search LRA
2) Yes, the LRA really is that bad...
one of the articles from the search above, dated 2003:
The Economist "Thou Shalt Not Kill"
The child soldiers are used as a source of easily replaceable cannon fodder mostly, those that survive grow up indoctrinated into the LRA as true believers.
Sure, the recent internet attention is kind of silly & shallow...but the horror of military & sexual slaver of 10s of thousands of children is all too real.
Take a look at the dates on these articles:
The Economist - search LRA
2) Yes, the LRA really is that bad...
one of the articles from the search above, dated 2003:
The Economist "Thou Shalt Not Kill"
The child soldiers are used as a source of easily replaceable cannon fodder mostly, those that survive grow up indoctrinated into the LRA as true believers.
Sure, the recent internet attention is kind of silly & shallow...but the horror of military & sexual slaver of 10s of thousands of children is all too real.
