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Posted 28 June 2012 - 06:36 AM

Or bungee a 2qt military canteen with straw kit to the side of it.
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Posted 28 June 2012 - 08:56 AM

You'll probably need two straws then
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Posted 28 June 2012 - 12:46 PM

I was staying primarily with 3 day packs. I'd love to carry more, but more weight means slower progress. I was not planing on taking much if any food, just supplies to get food...knives, bows, guns. Plus a bed roll of some sort ( most lickly a hammock/tent setup)and maybe 2 extra pair of cloths. All in all, I was aiming for around 20-30 pounds in personal gear then anywhere from 30-50 is extra gear for other people. The advantage in my case, is I got lots of people to haul stuff, but the down side is I got lots of people to look out for. I ahve to travel light enough to be a scout, but also help out where the smaller ones cant haul as much.

This is my plan and it most lickly has nothing to do with how your planning on working.
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Posted 28 June 2012 - 04:58 PM

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 06:27 PM

Depends on the situation. Primary plan is get home and bug-in. Secondary includes evacuation by vehicle. Need to get some bikes for the longer range bug-outs. The situation would have to be totally "FILTERED"ed for me to go out on foot away from my base @ home.

If I'm @ work, and for some reason transportation is disabled (via something like an EMP, Solar Storm, etc) I have a small Get Home Kit I can easily hike the 12 miles with. It'd take me a few hours, and if I was working a later shift, I'd be out well after dark.

I have a few co-workers that live in the same general direction as me, so I wanna get some more kit to support them during the hike along the major highway as well. Two are near retirement, so if they are evacuating/hiking with us, there will probably be one night out. I wanna get 2 tarps so I can rig an improvised shelter with. I got fire, water, basic medical, etc covered. Might add a little carb-rich food, I think some of the people living in my direction are diabetic.

The last pack I had blew a zipper irreparably, so this pack is going to need to be bombproof. Next possible scenario would be me in Fayetteville and needing to hike home. That's at least a 3-day hike alone, more like 5-days with some of my usual accomplices. Similarly, but less likely, If I were to abandon my place, I'd probably head for Fayetteville, I have a fair few of connections up there, and it has about 1/4 of the US Army stationed right there on Bragg, so military infrastructure in the event of a HUGE FUBAR is another draw. With a few people on a 3-5 day hike, I'll need decent shelter, plenty of light, high-energy food, and the ability to carry and purify a good amount of water. So canteens, hydration systems, bladders, filters, etc come more into play.

Assuming Fayetteville isn't an option (maybe Bragg is attacked), I'd head south to my dad's place. It's about 100 miles, so I'd need a solid 2 weeks of gear for the hike. Anyone headed with me would carry what they could, but I'm still the strongest and fittest of my expected companions, so I'd be hoofing the lion's share of the load. That's a LOT of food and water, not even accounting for shelter, security, etc. I don't care how much they hate guns, they will carry some.

In the most extreme circumstances, where I absolutely have to evacuate the area, there is no transportation, and all the above is impossible, I'd try my God damnedest to get to the mountains. I can live up there. It's probably a 2 month hike solo. Snow in the winter would make tracking much easier (moving would be notably harder, but you deal). I know wild edibles here, there, and in between.

And, I'd like to have enough support gear that I can sustain until I figure out what needs doing if I get to where I'm headed and it's a bust. Skill can take you a long way, but I'm not planning on flint-knapping a knife and burning a water bowl after the "FILTERED" goes down. The energy trade-off is excessive when I can get a knife off the shelf now and I can buy metal water bottles at the Dollar Tree.

And the kit would probably vary a little season-to-season. Or load a 3-season kit and another winter/4 season kit later.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 08:06 PM

Very well thought out. I like all of it. If I ever find myself in your area when the sh!t hits the fan, I'm happy to know someone is out there who knows what their doing.

Your evac plan is similar to mine, only difference is I plan on being on the run...like wanted kina run. If its a global ending, well we're all screwed. But most lickly its gona be a government power shift or something like that, and we're gona be forced to leave. Not forced by the authorities, but forced because I'm not socialist and I dont abide by those rules.

SO for me, roads are not lickly to be an option, but I'll take any good deal I can find. The trick is surviving is to be resourceful and opportunistic. In my case, I'm type 1 diabetic. So I've got 6 motnhs at the least to a year max before I die from blood poisoning. So I gota beg, steal or borrow for my life.
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Posted 28 June 2012 - 08:17 PM

"FILTERED" walking. Im just going to buy a surplus russian tank and live in that.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 10:33 PM

Type-1, not cool stuff. I got a good friend in end-stage renal failure (and high BP, and seizures, etc). The "system" goes down and he's only got a few weeks if he REALLY manages his diet. Knowing him, 2-weeks might be pushing it. He can't filter potassium, phosphorous, and sodium well.

I say "highway", it's two of the local thoroughfares. The town's "restaurant row", and a 2 lane state road that heads towards the next county over. Both are wooded along the vast majority.

And that 2-lane road heads through the country to get to my pops house as well. I'd circumnavigate to avoid the south side of town (gang land) but the rest of the way it's crop fields and woods and <1000 pop. towns. Probably much safer than I-95.

But I have a stack of secondary Bug-out options. Grandparents in the next county. Buddy in the next county. Cousin's place a few miles away. Other cousin's place on the other end of the county. Another cousin by the beach. Another cousin closer to the mountains.

If nothing happens, I'll have a bad-ass camping set-up anyway. :D

One major thing I like to have in my kit is maintenance for my feet. Athletic tape, a few pairs of good socks, Gold Bond powder (also really refreshing in the boxers), good quality, durable, WELL CUSHIONED boots, good sandals for water crossing, all that jazz.
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 11:28 AM

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 09:34 AM

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:10 PM

Was bumping around looking to see if there was anything extra I wanted to get on any of the various sites, ehen I stumbled across this.

http://wardenssupply...products_id=609

Not a bad base to build from. Add a decent knife (like a Mora), a fire starter of some flavor, a bandana, a small Esbit/Trioxane/Hexamine stove, and a sleep system, and you have a decent Bug-Out Bag for fairly minimal investment. Throw in some food and good clothes and you're doing better than a 95% of people out there.

EDIT: Hell, this one even has the sleeping bags.

http://wardenssupply...products_id=452

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 07:47 PM

Cool, cheap camp sites....but the underline word there is cheap.

Yah, I can get prescribed up to a full year in diabetic supplies. But I'm not the run in the mill type 1...atleast I tell myself that :) I can process most everything, and it effects me to a small degree, but I can burn it off with work. Meats and plants is about all I could eat and then I could burn that energy, it wouldnt pose a problem. Its crap like bread that will kill me. Which is fine, cause a meat, plant, and occasional fruit diet dose not sound bad in the least to me.

What are you guys doing about medical stuff? I've stored away some prescribed meds from when I had a tooth pulled ( vicodin ), but other than that, whats everyone doing for supplies?
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:07 PM

Not cheap, inexpensive. Big difference. You can get durable products affordably, because Uncle Sam paid for it once already. Win-win.

As for meds, I work at a hospital, and have access to the staff pharmacy. I can buy most OTC stuff @ a small fraction of retail. A month supply of generic Claratin is $1.86. A bottle of 32 antihistamines is a buck. Same for aspirin and ibuprofen. Naproxin Sodium runs about $2 a bottle. Sutafed, the new kind and the old one. And I can charge it to my badge, where it is deducted from my next check pre-tax.

I plan to order some antibiotics online for the Bug-Out kits. Most of the easily available ones are technically veterinary antibiotics, but if it comes down to dying of sepsis and taking fish penicillin, gimme the "FILTERED"ing fish pills. Many are even in doses easily scalable for human use.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:18 PM

was out garage saling and found a military extreme cold sleeping bag for $20, not a bad deal at all...
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:26 PM

Not too shabby.

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