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Posted 07 April 2011 - 08:19 AM

My advice is to see a professional...while you will find many well-meaning friends here, none of us is qualified to offer you the guidance you need. Know that a psychologist can only offer therapy, while a psychiatrist can offer both therapy and prescriptions. EVERYONE experiences depression at some point in their life, and just about 75% of Americans will experience depression severe enough at some point in their life to consider getting professional assistance. Any period of depression that last more than a couple of weeks, and is not directly associated with a traumatic event or loss of some kind, should be addressed by a professional. If your depression occurs off and on and is not really associated with some event or issue, or is severe enough to make you consider hurting yourself, get help NOW! Again, other than perhaps some moral support, you will not get the support you may need from anyone here. Take care.


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Posted 21 April 2011 - 11:58 AM

Thought I'd give a quick update. I saw a counselor and I am now on anti-depressants.

But so far life has continued to dump on me.

My car blew a head gasket.
I may get sued over an accident a year ago.
My job is cutting my hours.
I'm broke as hell
my second job isn't coming through so far.
I don't have high hopes over this break we're taking.

Things are not looking good for me. It can get worse yes but I'm hoping things get better.
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Posted 23 April 2011 - 08:57 AM

View Postsuper_stalker, on 21 April 2011 - 02:58 PM, said:

Thought I'd give a quick update. I saw a counselor and I am now on anti-depressants.

But so far life has continued to dump on me.

If that's how you see things, that's how life will be, but I got news for you, some people have it way worse. When it comes to dealing with hardship, there are two kinds of people. One type comes up against hardships or obstacles, becomes obsessed or focused on these, and is overwhelmed or defeated. The other type sees these challenges or obstacles, but only pays these enough attention in order to successfully navigate themselves around the obstacle. In life, we all experience detours and dead ends, but just as if you were driving in a car, do you just give up there and rot, or do you find another way to your destination?

My car blew a head gasket.

Mechanical things break from time to time. Walk, bike, ride the bus, or share a ride until you get your car fixed. Been there, done that....will likely be there and do that again.


I may get sued over an accident a year ago.

You might, and then you might not. It's hard to get blood from a stone, and most lawyers don't work for free, or take cases they expect to lose.

My job is cutting my hours.

Time for a part time job...been there, done that, and will likely be doing again soon. My job hasn't given raises in 3 years, then I got a 3% raise this year. I don't even get OT. How much has inflation gone up each of the last three years? How much have medical costs risen each of the last three years? Taxes? Insurance?

I'm broke as hell

I'm there. Just closed bankruptcy in March. Still have my job and house, but still need to help son and daughter through college.

my second job isn't coming through so far.

Still looking for one myself. It's tough though, because first job doesn't leave many hours open for a second job. I'm going to end up working weekends or 3rd shifts when I find something.

I don't have high hopes over this break we're taking.

Enjoy your break. I've been with my company long enough to earn 5 weeks of vacation....I'm lucky when I get to take two of these each year. When I do take vacation, I end up working on things around the house, because I can't afford to pay anyone to fix them, or afford to go anyplace for some R&R.

Things are not looking good for me. It can get worse yes but I'm hoping things get better.


Well, my life's tough right now, too...trying to recover from bankruptcy, someone rear-ended and totalled my car a few months ago, I have a job with long hours that I don't care for, wife suffers with depression and a physical disability, oldest son has some anger management issues, youngest son (who also attempted suicide two years ago) is a recovering heroin addict with two weeks of a 90 day jail term left, and my daughter just turned 16 and would like a car and to go to college when she turns 18. Still, I believe life will get better at some point, so I keep on carrying on. I remember a scene from the last Rocky movie, "Rocky Balboa", and there was a scene in it between Rocky and his son that I think of often. In that scene, Rocky's son is having some tough times, and Rocky explains to him that the tough guys aren't the ones who go knocking people and obstacles down in their life, it's the one's who get knocked down, pick themselves up, and keep fighting back and moving forward that are the tough guys. What you survive and overcome make you what you are...it's not fun, and I sure would have preferred to miss out on some sad moments in my life, but I have my family and friends, and take solace in the fact that I know I am a survivor. I have been knocked down repeatedly in my life, but each time i have regained my feet, and here I am continuing to fight and struggle my way onward. I will get there, or die in the effort. I'm no hero, I have no special powers, no influential friends or family, or super intelligence...if I can do it, so can you.

Take care, and good luck.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 03:16 PM

I hardly believe that EVERYONE (or even MOST) people suffer clinical depression at some point in life - look up the research Warpaint, just because there is increased incidence of diagnosis doesn't mean there's more of it or that we are just more aware of it, the problem is that it is INSANELY (no pun or offense intended) hard to diagnose most people with a psychological disorder, or more than one (they often interact and make eachother more likely).

Saying someone has a psychological disorder is just saying they are, to some extent, different from the "average" person. It's entirely dependent on where the individual clinicians draw the line. With regards to psychologists vs. psychiatrists, there are many good ones in both professions, but increasing diagnoses mean more apppointments, more prescriptions, and more money. Sometimes people just want you to tell them something is wrong with them so they can say it's not their fault.

The main thing that I would take home from everyone, again, is keep going - things will improve eventually.
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Posted 23 April 2011 - 08:12 PM


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Posted 25 April 2011 - 06:51 PM

View Postcdrinkh20, on 23 April 2011 - 06:16 PM, said:

I hardly believe that EVERYONE (or even MOST) people suffer clinical depression at some point in life - look up the research Warpaint, just because there is increased incidence of diagnosis doesn't mean there's more of it or that we are just more aware of it, the problem is that it is INSANELY (no pun or offense intended) hard to diagnose most people with a psychological disorder, or more than one (they often interact and make eachother more likely).

Well, that's what I got out of a couple of years of psychology...and our texts were based on research. The texts stated that 75% of Americans will experience a bout of depression serious enough to consider professional help. Most of the time, those bouts are associated with a significant event, most commonly the loss of a loved one. Just about everyone over the age of 25 has experienced the loss of a friend or family, and this is only one situation that can provoke depression. Many people who drink or use drugs are what is referred to as "self-medicating" for depression...how many people do you know that fall into that category. A lot of people become depressed when they lose their jobs, homes, or go bankrupt....that's a pretty big trend these days.

Saying someone has a psychological disorder is just saying they are, to some extent, different from the "average" person. It's entirely dependent on where the individual clinicians draw the line. With regards to psychologists vs. psychiatrists, there are many good ones in both professions, but increasing diagnoses mean more apppointments, more prescriptions, and more money. Sometimes people just want you to tell them something is wrong with them so they can say it's not their fault.

Well, professional help isn't cheap, but when someone starts talking about being so depressed that they're contemplating suicide, you're pretty much out of options, and you're kidding yourself if you think you're going to wake up tommorow and the "bluebird of happiness" will miraculously appear at your window. Some people get over depression by themselves, some with professional counseling, and others require medication...as with any "treatment", a second opinion is always a good idea.

The main thing that I would take home from everyone, again, is keep going - things will improve eventually.


Most young people think their lives suck because they have no perspective based upon any significant life experience...if young people can tough it out until they get into their twenties, most will look back and feel embarassed about how they behaved in their teens. Yes, some young people experience some pretty traumatic events, but for most young people, a zit in the middle of their forehead on picture day is a catastrophy of epic proportions....and you people know who you are.


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Posted 25 April 2011 - 07:06 PM

I think the difference is those statistics are not getting at *clinical* depression - or at least I should hope not.

Yes, people mourn over family members and pets, yes they feel sad for a few days at a time...but clinical depression involves something like weeks or months at a time...and extensive changes in mood, what they enjoy, etc.

But I have been forced to wait until this coming year to take a class on psychiatric disorders, so its certainly possible I'm mistaken - I was less interested first year and I have heard little about clinical things since (due to my University, which has very little focus on clinical studies and no graduate programs for it - it's very research oriented at the U of Alberta).

But again, I try not to take everything statistics like that say at face value - for example, if I believed every statistic I read, I would be extremely surprised I don't have 287 different cancers and other serious diseases by now. :huh:
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Posted 25 April 2011 - 07:16 PM

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I think the difference is those statistics are not getting at *clinical* depression - or at least I should hope not.

Yes, people mourn over family members and pets, yes they feel sad for a few days at a time...but clinical depression involves something like weeks or months at a time...and extensive changes in mood, what they enjoy, etc.

But I have been forced to wait until this coming year to take a class on psychiatric disorders, so its certainly possible I'm mistaken - I was less interested first year and I have heard little about clinical things since (due to my University, which has very little focus on clinical studies and no graduate programs for it - it's very research oriented at the U of Alberta).

But again, I try not to take everything statistics like that say at face value - for example, if I believed every statistic I read, I would be extremely surprised I don't have 287 different cancers and other serious diseases by now. :huh:



Unfortunately, statistics and data are essential elements of scientific research. But any data is only as good as our ability to intepret what it means...otherwise it's just black marks on paper. Case studies are very interesting.
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Posted 25 April 2011 - 07:25 PM

I'm just saying they could *find* increasing cases of depression popping up... but that may be because they are diagnosing more people, or it may be because more people are going for help with it, or it may be...etc.

As you said, how it's interpreted.

Always irritates me when I read stats like those in newspapers and magazines and I go source? What analysis did they use?? Control groups? Lol.
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Posted 01 May 2011 - 10:19 AM

Well things are getting a bit better.

My ex and I had our talk early, she decided that her lifestyle is more important than me.
I met this girl, she's pretty awesome. Christian, cute, funny, smart. We are getting along great.
Got a new car, going to fix the old one and either sell it or turn in into a hornet.
Second job came through, I'm getting trained now.
First job, my manager decided to switch me to day's without warning so now I need to balance my schedules. This really really really pisses me off a lot.

I'm paying this months rent and next months, after that my ex is on her own. I shouldn't even do that much considering what a Bitch she's been to me lately.

Things are looking up again.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 12:28 PM

He forgot to post again...

...because he got high :P

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