shadow_772, on 21 July 2011 - 10:08 PM, said:
The guys not noticed by chief until 3/4 the way through? Or the ones who put on their sweats and slide around the floors at
night while the watch yelled at them (but couldn't figure out who it was)?
And not gonna lie, I hear HT is a lame/crappy rate, to put it nicely. I am on this base though... So who knows what anyway.
I am not gonna be able to deal with this much sitting around well in my rate, being a tech helps that a bit though.
I am what the old EW's used to do, before they merged...
Hmmm either I guess...
Damn rate merging, I don't know what the hell is going on anymore haha! Good thing I don't need to!
Stand by for biblical rambling on the subject of "this job sucks"
HT does have a tendency to suck, but it depends on where you wind up to some extent. I had a friend in A-school who was in
fact the worst HT training there in my class haha! But he aced all the written tests and ended up graduating top of the
class even though he epicly sucked at welding which is 98% of the training there. Anyway he got to pick his orders and
wound up at Annapolis, only responsibility there was fiberglass work on the small sailboats they train the cadets in, and
there really wasn't much of that to be done either. His whole enlistment ended up being pretty much a vacation.
I on the other hand went to that scrap heap of a Frigate I mentioned earlier where there was no such shortage of work and
where it was all incredibly hard, but it was a pretty sweet deal. There were some great first classes in the division,
including MR1 who promptly informed me "You know you new guys on the squad are just cannon fodder right?" (refering to
VBSS) and HT1 who was reputed to be able to weld plate steel to a tree. They were hard asses but they were great
introducing me to the work and helping me integrate into the command. Showed me all the ropes. Usually when you start out,
you end up just hand hauling around the equipment for the old guys but HT1's policy was, "Hey I've already established my
reputation, but nobody knows who you are. So from now on you're going to do all the welding jobs onboard." I still had to
haul the gear but I got to start building my rep early, and HT1 was always there showing me how welding works in the field,
which is to say a LOT differently than it goes down in a welding booth at A-school. Only draw back was that the two kick
ass first classes were both leaving the ship within months, and had already relequished control of the division to the only
1st class who'd be staying on board DC1 who was a dipsh*t. The other 1st classes had seniority but were leaving anyway so
had pre-turned over the Petty Officer in Charge post. So this other guy was a d*ck and it kinda sucked working for him.
While they were still onboard though HT1 and MR1 didn't let hime f*** with me and by time they left I could pretty much
take care of myself. Our chief was also an idiot but we didn't have to deal with him much he seemed to spend most of his
time napping in the chief's mess luckily haha! But the Division Officer wasn't your typical goofy hapless college kid with
an gold bar pinned to his collar haha! He had been around a little longer and knew what was up, he's actually the one that
got me into VBSS. The Captain also was awesome was always walking the deck plates engaging with the sailors, you could talk
to him like he was a co-worker even though he was the commander, but at the same time he commanded respect. From what I
heard about the war games and ops he ran he was the ballsiest and smartest tin can commander in the fleet! Had a mandatory
liberty call (which means your PEE SHOOTER BOBBLE HEAD boss - DC1/CPO - couldn't make you work all night without clearance and a good
reason), shelled out the budget to get everyone shoreside barracks rooms while the ship was in dry dock. Private rooms!
Literally just like a hotel room, even had cleaning service! Because appearently it was more important to him to give back
to his sailors than it was to save some cash so he could kiss his bosses ass later, "Look how much money I saved in the
budget, blah" He was not that kind of officer. And had the duty section run shuttles for all the sailors who didn't have
personal transportation to and from the barracks. I never worked harder in my life than those first months onboard, but
life was pretty damn good.
Later though I was left working for DC1, the Chief eventually left and was replaced by a less incompetant slightly smarter
chief, but that doesn't mean he was a good chief, just not as bad. Anyway it ended up being a long succession of bad CPO's
and by time we finally got a kick ass chief I was pretty thoroughly burnt out anyway, and processing out of the Navy too.
The Captain got replaced by a complete douchebag who ran the show until pretty much my last year, his replacement was a
decent Captain but not nearly the bad ass we started out with. The replacement senior HT wound up being one of those, "You
haul the gear, I do the the job and get the credit" types. Point is things went down hill and the chain of command was
never as good as it was when I first showed up again. So... the job was never as good again, it really sucked sometimes
Point being no matter what your rating is, it can be GREAT, or it can be horrible. It actually depends a little more on who
you're working for and who you're working with than it does on what you're actually doing. The wrong boss could have ruined
my friends vacation and worked him into the ground even though there was no real work to do, just by being a jerk. And my
job was great when it first started out even though it was really hard work.
In the end how good or bad your job is I think really depends most on YOU than anything else. For example no matter how bad
the job got in my experience, and it got f*cking bad, me and my co-workers/friends always kept laughing. We forced that job
to be fun sometimes, and sometimes doing that meant risking our lives and breaking laws (little laws haha!). But at the
same time I did tend to focus on the negative. Ultimately, as long as you're in the Navy someone is always going to be in
charge of you. But only you can be in charge of your attitude. So try to exercise a little more influence on your attitude
than all the other factors and you'll have a better time no matter what happens or doesn't.
Anyway I did have a handful of unfortunate run-in's with the ship's sewage system which also falls under the HT rate and that did suck. But you can't be scared to get dirty in this line of work. Hell, if you're trying to get into the more combat oriented side of the Navy you might have to crawl through a ditch of sh*t out in the field just to stay alive, regardless of rate. Bottom line is, as long as you're in the military the job is always going to get ugly, one way or another. Sometimes you just gotta sailor the f*ck up and get the job done.