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#31 User is offline   Puzuma 

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 02:10 PM

You are pretty close there. The first number is the size in cubic inches, the second is the tanks pressure in PSI. 13/3000 is 13 cu. in at 3000 psi. Some people will shorten the psi to just the first 2 digits. 68/45.. 68 cu in at 4500 psi.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 02:32 PM

Thanks Puzuma youve been a lot of help. So you were saying that i need to go with smaller and or lighter tank for a phantom?

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 05:13 PM

That's more of a personal preference than anything else. At most I use a 9oz CO2 tank. Get it filled and it should do you for several days of play. As far as HPA, the less expensive tanks tend to be steel and can be fairly heavy. Using a 92/4500 tank to me is way overkill.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 05:36 PM

ohh well i looked into that ninja 13/3000 and it didnt seem to bad for 60 bucks
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 06:04 PM

You will get a little over 300 shots on a full 3000psi fill with a 13/3k tank.

I also use a 13/3k hpa on my Phantom in the winter. In the summer when the warmer air temps I refer to use a 3.5 ounce co2 tank. I still get a bit over 300 shots, but the tank is smaller over all and I prefer the size over the 13/3k.

Phantoms are made for co2, so there is no reason to go out and buy a special HPA tank just for your pump gun...unless you are like us and love to buy shiney new things that make you feel pretty and young again...er wait...that came out wrong...
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 06:18 PM

EDIT: Bah, I didn't see a whole page of replies. I'm way too slow today.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 06:20 PM

krazy i like your style lol. but the reason is i was going to get one eventually anyways because the field i play at mostly has free air and i always gotta rent a 5 dollar tank cuz i dont have a hpa yet :D
Also can you put after market barrels on a phantom? I dont even know what type of threading they use.
I also just started to think that could i use a 13/3000 on a vertical drop open class? or would that be a bad idea?

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 07:18 PM

View PostBlueEnigma, on 26 July 2010 - 09:20 PM, said:

krazy i like your style lol. but the reason is i was going to get one eventually anyways because the field i play at mostly has free air and i always gotta rent a 5 dollar tank cuz i dont have a hpa yet :D
Also can you put after market barrels on a phantom? I dont even know what type of threading they use.
I also just started to think that could i use a 13/3000 on a vertical drop open class? or would that be a bad idea?


You can put aftermarket barrels on phantoms, they just come with a price usually. I tend to see more barrel kits than single barrels.

But as for the stock barrel, I've never had a problem with it, always shot straight for me.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 07:30 PM

thanks for the help flo
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Posted 27 July 2010 - 07:58 AM

The barrel threads are specific to the Phantom...Phantom threads. Very few folks makes barrels for them.
But in al the years of using them I have tried most aftermarket barrels.
To shorten my explaination, aftermarket barrels performs as good as or worse than the stock Phantom barrel. The stock barrel is high quality and coupled with the detent rings is able to accuratly shoot a huge variety of paint. Save the money and stay with the stock barrel.

My Phantom is set up vert air, right feed breech. I commonly use my 13/3k tank on the vert adapter. So yes, you would be set. Free air is a beautiful thing!

A couple things I recomend to all Phantom buyers. A stock and a Trigger Shoe.

The Phantom is so light a stock really increases your accuracy. The 'T' stock is adjustable from 11" to 16" and is the most popular for most folks. The 'L' stock is a set 13" and is what I use. I have both and the 'L' is just what I prefer due to the shape of the shoulder piece. I also have long arms and the 'L' is a perfect fit without adjusting.
The Trigger Shoe is simply a comfort thing for your finger. The Phantom has a very thin trigger and after extended use tends to bother most players. The trigger shoe is simply a bolt on part that widens the trigger face and gives the player more surface area to use when shooting. You never notice it is there...until you play without it!

Detent rings are another must have IMO. They give you the ability to hold paint in the breech between shoots. Without them the paint will simply roll down the barrel...and for the one shot pumpers out there who have been destroied due to an air ball this is a very good thing.
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Posted 27 July 2010 - 08:15 AM

13 cubic inches of 3000 psi.

My teammate has one and he gets about 50 shots out of his on his Sanchez pump.
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Posted 27 July 2010 - 08:45 AM

that's... not right.

i strongly advise that he sweetspot his reg and possibly even try out different springs.

He should be in the 200-250 range.
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Posted 27 July 2010 - 10:05 AM

50!? I would terrorize a village and burn something down in anger at that performance!
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Posted 27 July 2010 - 10:35 AM

But that doesn't solve the problem. Kidnapping and holding an airsmith's entire family hostage and killing one person every 10 minutes does.

Is that tank even getting filled properly? I know it's not hard to fill HPA but still....

Could it be there's not enough shims in the reg?
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Posted 27 July 2010 - 12:48 PM

If i add a stock to my purchase it will push me a lot farther over than i intended to be. So could i buy a stock later on and add it myself or is it a pain in the ass to do after its already bought.
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