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Ok, this guy shoots in burst but it shoots as fast as mine. He also has totally stock parts like me.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=kOqV-Pi1NrU
40 bps for your A5
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 10:21 AM
Amazing. You do not get it do you. It is not even close to 40 cycles per second. It sounds closer to 20.
Unless you have ever been around something that honestly shoots at 30 bps you simply do not understand what it sounds like.
Unless you have ever been around something that honestly shoots at 30 bps you simply do not understand what it sounds like.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 10:26 AM
I want to see a video of yours over a big red chrono that will tell you ROF.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 10:30 AM
agreed not 40 bps
sounds like a slopy mid 20's at best.
intersting concept and build but I fear its unpractical and very inefficient
sounds like a slopy mid 20's at best.
intersting concept and build but I fear its unpractical and very inefficient
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 10:33 AM
Ok here is my theory.
An E-grip on any gun, all it dose is the eye on the grip scenes the hammer going back and forth. If it is set for 3ball burst, the eye lets the hammer cycle3 times then it reengages. All I did was let the hammer free to cycle as fast a possible.
If you took a high end electro and did the same thing, your bps will be SUPER HIGH cause the parts are light. The A5 has heaver part so its bps are limited by weight.
The A5 has a programed set safe speed at 23-25bps. All I did was remove the sear to allow it to fire freely. This will allow it to hit about 30-40bps. A prolonged fire will result in broke parts, but not if you burst shoot it.
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An E-grip on any gun, all it dose is the eye on the grip scenes the hammer going back and forth. If it is set for 3ball burst, the eye lets the hammer cycle3 times then it reengages. All I did was let the hammer free to cycle as fast a possible.
If you took a high end electro and did the same thing, your bps will be SUPER HIGH cause the parts are light. The A5 has heaver part so its bps are limited by weight.
The A5 has a programed set safe speed at 23-25bps. All I did was remove the sear to allow it to fire freely. This will allow it to hit about 30-40bps. A prolonged fire will result in broke parts, but not if you burst shoot it.
Mehphisto, on May 18 2010, 12:26 PM, said:
I want to see a video of yours over a big red chrono that will tell you ROF.
Working on getting the vid. started.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 10:37 AM
Lt.Vortex, on May 18 2010, 12:33 PM, said:
If you took a high end electro and did the same thing, your bps will be SUPER HIGH cause the parts are light. The A5 has heaver part so its bps are limited by weight.
You can't do it to a high end electro because there is no sear....
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 10:41 AM
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 10:43 AM
IT DOESNT WORK.
Please understand this, I have seen this thread so many times. I was reading this thread when it was still on 98s and not the a5.
First off basically no hopper can keep up with 40 bps, most hoppers wouldnt be able to keep up to 30.
And before you start saying they could think of this fact. A hoppers free fall rate isnt near what a hopper actually does when its on a gun.
Please understand this, I have seen this thread so many times. I was reading this thread when it was still on 98s and not the a5.
First off basically no hopper can keep up with 40 bps, most hoppers wouldnt be able to keep up to 30.
And before you start saying they could think of this fact. A hoppers free fall rate isnt near what a hopper actually does when its on a gun.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 10:49 AM
Yeah, I agree with everyone that it just don't work son. Even with your YouTube 'proof' it doesn't apply. Guy is dry firing, so he's actually shooting 0 BPS.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 10:52 AM
Dear sweet zombie Jesus on a 24 karat Pogo Stick 
TIPPMANS. CANNOT. FIRE. PASSED. 25. BALLS. PER. SECOND.
Especially on CO2 like that video you posted. That was maybe 20, and WITHOUT PAINT. It probably wasn't even fully cycling on a few (or more) of those shots.
I actually have some suspicion on the DM8 shooting 40. Though I'll believe a DM8 does 40 before a Tippmann does 30.
TIPPMANS. CANNOT. FIRE. PASSED. 25. BALLS. PER. SECOND.
Especially on CO2 like that video you posted. That was maybe 20, and WITHOUT PAINT. It probably wasn't even fully cycling on a few (or more) of those shots.
I actually have some suspicion on the DM8 shooting 40. Though I'll believe a DM8 does 40 before a Tippmann does 30.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 11:31 AM
Ok fine. We can all agree on the fact that it cant shoot 40 bps.
NEW topic. Can an A5 operate at 40bps. Yes/No
My answer. With lighter parts, YES
NEW topic. Can an A5 operate at 40bps. Yes/No
My answer. With lighter parts, YES
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 11:52 AM
Lt. Vortex. Here's what I want you to do. Pull out that bottle of white out. Now open it. Look up on your screen ... see where it says "New Topic" ... wipe the brush over that section.
Ok LV ... you ask can an A5 do 40 cycles/sec. Not without some kind of electro or pneumatic assist.
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Ok LV ... you ask can an A5 do 40 cycles/sec. Not without some kind of electro or pneumatic assist.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 12:49 PM
Yes I meant CPS( cycles per second)
You all would like that wouldn't you.
slinkyaroo, on May 18 2010, 01:52 PM, said:
Lt. Vortex. Here's what I want you to do. Pull out that bottle of white out. Now open it. Look up on your screen ... see where it says "New Topic" ... wipe the brush over that section.
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You all would like that wouldn't you.
