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#16 User is offline   xWashburnx 

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 02:08 AM

View PostTenacious221, on Mar 6 2010, 08:55 PM, said:

View PostxWashburnx, on Mar 6 2010, 09:43 PM, said:

3) can switch to automatic or semi-auto with the lip of a switch
4)no regulator or board or eye matinince


3)can switch between mechanical semi, electronic semi, and whatever you set it to in the board, not JUST automatic.
4)Regulator is built into the flex valve, will need maintenance EVENTUALLY. There is a board, but if it stops working you can play semi only if you like. No eyes are needed (theoretically) because of the cyclone feed.

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the cyclone feed is a terrible idea btw.... i would rather be able to have a choice
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 12:15 PM

View PostEros, on Mar 6 2010, 08:52 PM, said:

Yeah, but think of the PE Geo perks.

1.) It's a PE.
2.) It's a Geo.
3.) It's a PE Geo.
4.) It's a bloody PE Geo.
5.) No, I mean, really, it's a bloody PE bloody GEO.



But it a tippmann
its a phenom
its a bloody tippmann phenom
SRYSLY ITS A BLOODY TIPPMANN BLOODY PHENOM :(
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 12:47 PM

View PostxWashburnx, on Mar 7 2010, 12:15 PM, said:

View PostEros, on Mar 6 2010, 08:52 PM, said:

Yeah, but think of the PE Geo perks.

1.) It's a PE.
2.) It's a Geo.
3.) It's a PE Geo.
4.) It's a bloody PE Geo.
5.) No, I mean, really, it's a bloody PE bloody GEO.



But it a tippmann
its a phenom
its a bloody tippmann phenom
SRYSLY ITS A BLOODY TIPPMANN BLOODY PHENOM :(


NORLY ITS A GEO.

Seriously, if buying a Geo is an option, get it.
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 01:10 PM

View PostEros, on Mar 7 2010, 12:47 PM, said:

View PostxWashburnx, on Mar 7 2010, 12:15 PM, said:

View PostEros, on Mar 6 2010, 08:52 PM, said:

Yeah, but think of the PE Geo perks.

1.) It's a PE.
2.) It's a Geo.
3.) It's a PE Geo.
4.) It's a bloody PE Geo.
5.) No, I mean, really, it's a bloody PE bloody GEO.



But it a tippmann
its a phenom
its a bloody tippmann phenom
SRYSLY ITS A BLOODY TIPPMANN BLOODY PHENOM :(


NORLY ITS A GEO.

Seriously, if buying a Geo is an option, get it.



I get it but most electric guns are really high matinence.......boards and regulators and macrolines and all that jazz
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 01:12 PM

View PostxWashburnx, on Mar 7 2010, 01:10 PM, said:

View PostEros, on Mar 7 2010, 12:47 PM, said:

View PostxWashburnx, on Mar 7 2010, 12:15 PM, said:

View PostEros, on Mar 6 2010, 08:52 PM, said:

Yeah, but think of the PE Geo perks.

1.) It's a PE.
2.) It's a Geo.
3.) It's a PE Geo.
4.) It's a bloody PE Geo.
5.) No, I mean, really, it's a bloody PE bloody GEO.



But it a tippmann
its a phenom
its a bloody tippmann phenom
SRYSLY ITS A BLOODY TIPPMANN BLOODY PHENOM :(


NORLY ITS A GEO.

Seriously, if buying a Geo is an option, get it.



I get it but most electric guns are really high matinence.......boards and regulators and macrolines and all that jazz


It's a relative "high maintenance". Sure, they require more maintenance than, say, a Tac-One. However, it's not like you'll be spending hours and hours setting it up and fixing it.
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 01:25 PM

View PostxWashburnx, on Mar 7 2010, 03:10 PM, said:

View PostEros, on Mar 7 2010, 12:47 PM, said:

View PostxWashburnx, on Mar 7 2010, 12:15 PM, said:

View PostEros, on Mar 6 2010, 08:52 PM, said:

Yeah, but think of the PE Geo perks.

1.) It's a PE.
2.) It's a Geo.
3.) It's a PE Geo.
4.) It's a bloody PE Geo.
5.) No, I mean, really, it's a bloody PE bloody GEO.



But it a tippmann
its a phenom
its a bloody tippmann phenom
SRYSLY ITS A BLOODY TIPPMANN BLOODY PHENOM :(


NORLY ITS A GEO.

Seriously, if buying a Geo is an option, get it.



I get it but most electric guns are really high matinence.......boards and regulators and macrolines and all that jazz

Not really, You'll need to clean and lube the regulator every six months. The board you will never need to mess with more than you would on the Phenom, and maybe even less than that unless the Phenom has a screen. Microlines take less than 5 minutes to change every now and again. I think I've changed my macroline maybe twice in the year I've had my PM7. And what's all that jazz? I'm betting I can debunk that too.
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 01:35 PM

View PostEcellg, on Mar 7 2010, 01:25 PM, said:

Not really, You'll need to clean and lube the regulator every six months. The board you will never need to mess with more than you would on the Phenom, and maybe even less than that unless the Phenom has a screen. Microlines take less than 5 minutes to change every now and again. I think I've changed my macroline maybe twice in the year I've had my PM7. And what's all that jazz? I'm betting I can debunk that too.



Phenom has air through grip so ill never have to change them and the regulator is in the valve..... and i can still use it when the battery is dead... can ur PM7 do that?
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 01:54 PM

No, but I got a low battery warning, and change my battery about half a case -about half a playing day- after I get the warning so I never really worry about it. And should I forget a battery that day, I can pull out my mech back up, or buy a new one. With the reg being in the valve, that just means that you have to take apart your valve if you need to clean your reg.
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 01:56 PM

View PostxWashburnx, on Mar 7 2010, 01:35 PM, said:

View PostEcellg, on Mar 7 2010, 01:25 PM, said:

Not really, You'll need to clean and lube the regulator every six months. The board you will never need to mess with more than you would on the Phenom, and maybe even less than that unless the Phenom has a screen. Microlines take less than 5 minutes to change every now and again. I think I've changed my macroline maybe twice in the year I've had my PM7. And what's all that jazz? I'm betting I can debunk that too.



Phenom has air through grip so ill never have to change them and the regulator is in the valve..... and i can still use it when the battery is dead... can ur PM7 do that?



how often do you have a battery die mid game? I mean, of course, if it's that big a factor, perhaps you're not ready for a geo or vitory, and should stick with a X7p, just because, as a tippmann, having to clean and lube it boils down to a couple drops of hoppe's #9 in the ASA and you're done.

The reg will still need to be cleaned out at some point (unless you're using a SCUBA compressor every time you fill HPA, and the air is breathing quality) and since it's housed in the valve, you'll have to take the entire bleeding marker apart to get at it.

and it's as if changing macroline is a big deal. hell, I've *never* had to, except when I swapped rails or ASAs on my timmy.
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 02:01 PM

View PostxWashburnx, on Mar 7 2010, 01:35 PM, said:

Phenom has air through grip so ill never have to change them and the regulator is in the valve..... and i can still use it when the battery is dead... can ur PM7 do that?


Assuming those are major problems (they aren't), you're missing out on how much better the Geo or the Victory will perform over the X-7. The Geo and the Victory will generally shoot faster, shoot quieter, have less recoil, smoother operation, lighter trigger pull, lighter body, and better air efficiency.
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 02:12 PM

View PostEros, on Mar 7 2010, 02:01 PM, said:

View PostxWashburnx, on Mar 7 2010, 01:35 PM, said:

Phenom has air through grip so ill never have to change them and the regulator is in the valve..... and i can still use it when the battery is dead... can ur PM7 do that?


Assuming those are major problems (they aren't), you're missing out on how much better the Geo or the Victory will perform over the X-7. The Geo and the Victory will generally shoot faster, shoot quieter, have less recoil, smoother operation, lighter trigger pull, lighter body, and better air efficiency.



Maybe so.

but here are the top 3 things i look for

1) Durability
2) Reliability
3)Simplicity
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 02:17 PM

View PostxWashburnx, on Mar 7 2010, 02:12 PM, said:

Maybe so.

but here are the top 3 things i look for

1) Durability
2) Reliability
3)Simplicity


Then why not look at an Automag or a Phantom? If you have your heart set on a Phenom, that's cool. However, if you're genuinely weighing the options, the Phenom doesn't particularly shine in any one area.
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 02:19 PM

All of which are there in the guns you chose. The only people who say that electros aren't reliable or durable haven't used a good one. All guns are as simple as you choose to make them (think about it). Now you just have to decide performance, which is a toss up between the Geo and the Victory (I don't know the exact number differences between the two).
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 02:33 PM

View PostEcellg, on Mar 7 2010, 02:19 PM, said:

All of which are there in the guns you chose. The only people who say that electros aren't reliable or durable haven't used a good one. All guns are as simple as you choose to make them (think about it). Now you just have to decide performance, which is a toss up between the Geo and the Victory (I don't know the exact number differences between the two).



The Geo's a spool valve... BL uses the pillow bolt which i like alot
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 03:50 PM

Get the victory since all a geo is is a rip off design from bob anyway made in europe. All PE has ever done since they made the Ego was rip off bob longs designs.
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