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#91 User is offline   outlaw-master 

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 03:15 PM

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So minority automatically equals black? Because I was questioning burton after he said a black girl left the noose in the library.


Ash's point was that it wasn't "whitey" who did it.

Unless you're saying all non-blacks are "whitey." And then, we still don't know for sure. The news is choosing not to specify anything beyond "non-Caucasian"



How original my words are being twisted.

No the only thing I was saying was the question I asked. Burton said she was black, but the article only says it's a minority.
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Posted 05 March 2010 - 03:17 PM

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 04:10 PM

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 04:32 PM

View Postoutlaw-master, on Mar 5 2010, 05:15 PM, said:

View PostThalion, on Mar 5 2010, 04:08 PM, said:

View Postoutlaw-master, on Mar 5 2010, 04:03 PM, said:

So minority automatically equals black? Because I was questioning burton after he said a black girl left the noose in the library.


Ash's point was that it wasn't "whitey" who did it.

Unless you're saying all non-blacks are "whitey." And then, we still don't know for sure. The news is choosing not to specify anything beyond "non-Caucasian"



How original my words are being twisted.

No the only thing I was saying was the question I asked. Burton said she was black, but the article only says it's a minority.


And therefore, 'Whitey' can not be blamed for this incident, per our current information.

Thus, this incident may well be qualified as a hoax. In fact, if the anonymous minority student (who has been arrested) is to be believed, there never was a hate crime to begin with.

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 09:08 AM

View PostThalion, on Mar 4 2010, 10:26 PM, said:

*momentary off topic hijacking in progress

View PostWarpaint, on Mar 4 2010, 08:19 PM, said:

Endgame? There is no endgame in the internet, didn't you know that? No one wins an argument or debate or whatever people presume to call what they are doing here...and really, debates don't influence perspective much, but rather instead increase polarization. Despite that, there are still plenty of losers.



Then why participate?

More precisely, maybe the question is participate in what? Despite how hard people try, you can't really have a debate here...the accepted rules of debate don't apply. Mostly, I'm just killing a little time...which I seem to have less and less of to do so these days. I find some people's opinions to be very entertaining...and sometimes I enjoy them explaining themselves, and even more so when they can't.

While yes, debates on the internet simply don't change opinions, they can be at times a great way to learn more about the other argument as well as your own.

So, in a way, it influences perspective. It makes the participants examine their own argument, and find better ways to justify their position. At the same time, it gives them other points from the other side to look into (and either confirm, debunk, or find a "you're right, but for the wrong reason" which builds your argument for the future)


Well, I don't know if I learn anything about the other argument, so much as the people doing the "arguing". People can "debunk" so-called facts, but opinions for the most part, are what they are, and while we don't necessarily agree with these, we can't really appreciate or understand unless we "walk a mile in their shoes". Prejudice and bigotry are one of those things you must personally experience before you really understand the damage it does. The vast majority of people in this forum are much younger than me, and at least in terms of being young and that perspective, I've been in those shoes, and over time, know that time and experience change one's perspective. My experiences both as a minority and non-minority give me unique views from each perspective. People may take what other people say under advice, but really, it's each individual's experiences, or the experiences of witnessing someone else's experiences, that tend to form or "validate" our opinions, or those that people have shared with us.

I think I read somewhere that the person who put up the noose was non-white...that's just as much a potential hate crime as if a white person put it up, because they're still provoking and inciting racially based tension and hatred, and expecting a backlash against the majority...whoever that is. And racial hatred exists in minorities, as well as majorities, althought the power such prejudice wields is not as significant as when exercised by the majority. Some things never change as much as we like to think...in ourselves, and in others.

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