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#16 User is offline   blacknighttdp 

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Posted 01 May 2010 - 08:15 AM

the tippmanns they sell at walmart are lower quality than the ones at the paintball shops, the internals were made cheaper so large chain stores could buy them cheaper. im still waiting to get a phenom too, so for now my a5 with rt is working great and still gets more use than my ion
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Posted 01 May 2010 - 08:32 AM

View Postblacknighttdp, on May 1 2010, 10:15 AM, said:

the tippmanns they sell at walmart are lower quality than the ones at the paintball shops, the internals were made cheaper so large chain stores could buy them cheaper. im still waiting to get a phenom too, so for now my a5 with rt is working great and still gets more use than my ion

A 98 you buy at walmart is just as bad as one you buy at your local proshop....
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Posted 01 May 2010 - 09:39 AM

I love my SL-68 II but I wouldn't shoot anything passed a Model 98. The earlier Model 98s were still built like tanks because my local field still has a few that are over 10 years old now...They survived 10 years of rental play and being oiled with transmission fluid. :P
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Posted 01 May 2010 - 09:40 AM

View Postblacknighttdp, on May 1 2010, 11:15 AM, said:

the tippmanns they sell at walmart are lower quality than the ones at the paintball shops, the internals were made cheaper so large chain stores could buy them cheaper. im still waiting to get a phenom too, so for now my a5 with rt is working great and still gets more use than my ion

if you like your a5 better, thats great .... i dont think youll see the tippmann haters here like before .... just some guys who have moved on as a personal choice. like you said earlier, its all about what turns you on, not somebody else. most dudes on here can appreciate the time, effort and skill it takes to play the sport.... regardless of which forum you prefer .... woods, speed, scenario, factory, outlaw, whatever .. unless its pump ... now theres a bunch of suckas .... the pumperz ... lol :P
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Posted 01 May 2010 - 11:30 AM

even if walmart sells crap 98's and a pro shop does not..

does not mean the warranty from tippmann is garbage.

and i kinda find it hard to believe that a company would purposely make something heck of alot cheaper for stores like walmart, considering walmart is sometimes the only store front where you can find pb gear out in middle of no where areas.

i got my first 98 from some sports store.. and i cant remember what the store was called, but there are several locations around my area... and i never had problems with it. when i got my custom pro i sold it off to a friend that wanted to get into the sport, and he still has it and it still works perfect.

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Posted 01 May 2010 - 11:44 AM

the poorer quality only means that they are more likely to have problems but the warranty from tippmann is one of the best you can find
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Posted 01 May 2010 - 11:53 AM

View Postblacknighttdp, on May 1 2010, 01:44 PM, said:

the poorer quality only means that they are more likely to have problems but the warranty from tippmann is one of the best you can find

yea, they have sent me replacement parts even though i told them i had it for a couple of years.

tippmannparts.com is another site to check out if you need extra parts.. but tippmann has done nothing but make me happy.. and anger me occasionally while im doing maintenance..
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Posted 02 June 2010 - 02:50 PM

people call tippmann entry level all the time, but any marker is entry level. it just depends on how much you want to spend when you first get into the sport. EVERYONE complains about the agglets with the egos and eteks, etc. that cant play but think they're supertroopers because their gear is new and shiny. entry level is a myth and a word people use to minimalise gear. tippmanns are widely available because tippmann knows how to market and price their gear. not to menation the warranty is notoriously good.

brass eagle is junk, we all know that. the triumph was junk too. but that was tippmann trying to edge in on the BE crowd.
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Posted 02 June 2010 - 04:21 PM

View PostIron__Man, on Jun 2 2010, 02:50 PM, said:

people call tippmann entry level all the time, but any marker is entry level. it just depends on how much you want to spend when you first get into the sport. EVERYONE complains about the agglets with the egos and eteks, etc. that cant play but think they're supertroopers because their gear is new and shiny. entry level is a myth and a word people use to minimalise gear. tippmanns are widely available because tippmann knows how to market and price their gear. not to menation the warranty is notoriously good.

brass eagle is junk, we all know that. the triumph was junk too. but that was tippmann trying to edge in on the BE crowd.

Thats not true at all, entry level products are cheap because they are almost always easier to use and maintain then something more expensive.

Just because you have a higher budget for something doesnt mean whatever you buy is going to be entry level.

If I want to edit home videos and entry level machine would be an imac with Imovie or Final Cut...I might be able to afford a million dollar editing system that I could run Imovie or Final Cut off of but that doesnt mean its an entry level machine.

Tippman are entry level guns because they are simple, cheap, easy to use, and durable (for the most part). An ego is alot more complicated when it breaks (if it breaks) and while they both shoot paintballs a brand new Ego10 is not equal to an A5.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 07:20 AM

I'v had my alpha black for two years with the e-grip and I have never had a problem with it but I do see alot of expensive marker out there that have. I will stay with my Tippmann.

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 06:28 AM

I love my X7 Phenom and i have no problem with the quality of it. Ive used it for months now and its already had some beatings and it still works perfectly.

Worst one was sliding in behind a bunker and burrying the end into sand/stones - it shot right through them! ive also knocked it on a wall/leant on it plenty of times, bashed a couple of trees etc. After each outing i clean her well, if its been a really messy day its a strip and clean and i grease the internals every 4 cases or so and she works like a dream.

Couldnt be happier :-)

by the way guys you cant compare something like an Ego10 to an A-5 - they were born in different decades!! Its all about personal preference anyway, im just saying i have experienced quality, a good price, customisation (important to me) and if it all goes wrong ive heard they have excellent customer service so thats some reassurance.
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Posted 21 June 2010 - 12:38 PM

I currently use either a PM7 or an A5. Setting them side to side I have no favorites. They both have there goods and bads and I wouldn't give up either for the world. That said I have done a ton of upgrades to my A5 and only a few to my PM7, so out of the box I would of preferred the PM7 however between the cost of the two I think that my upgraded A5 is worth close to my PM7.

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 03:17 PM

I started with a tippmann a 98 custom and i slowly upgraded it until i couldnt any more. I thought that it was the best gun in the world and i was gonna keep it forever. I was wrong sold it and have now moved on to much better overall markers. Tippmanns have strengths such as durability but other than that they have to many weaknesses.

First problem is consistency. It uses a little screw into the side of the power tube as a regulator thats just wrong......, yes you can put a nice cp or palmers or whatever you chose regulator on them and help out but its still a blowback sear tripped marker (directed at 98 and a-5, phenom is different story)

second problem, length and kinda weight. I say length because they are accessivly long. you want to play as tight as possible, and i had a tippmann milsim'd out gun and now that i shoot electro's (speedball guns some of you call them) i can play so much tighter and quicker to aim it really helps guys it does.

third reason i wont buy another. You cant use it legitametly on a speedball field. yeah you can go out there and play with it but you will not be as good at snap shooting with a tippmann as you would a mid-high end electro. You can say "i go out there and tear it up with my tippmann at speedball all the time", yeah im sure you do, try it with a light, tight, easy to snap/switch hands electro and you will think completely different about your tippmann on the speedball field. Where as you can take your (speedball) marker out into the woods and lose no performance

So before you think im just bashing i actually keep a e-gripped 98 custom pro in my gear bag incase my legend or tm7 go down. Everyone can use a back up 98 custom or a-5 but for a primary i wouldnt recommend it
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Posted 21 June 2010 - 10:47 PM

As far as bang for the buck .Tippman is hard to beat.They do have their ideosyncrosies ,but all markers do.There have probably been more Tipmanns in the hands of players over the years than any other marker.The Tippmann service center is always A+.There are better markers, but Tippmans aren,t $1200 either. They were instrumental in the rise of paintball as a sport.Tippman gets an unequivical A from me. I would give few others that due to their service is not so good.$1200 into a marker that lemons you all the time and service that says sorry 'bout your luck surely deserves an F in my book.
Walmart in our area is officially out of the paintball business except for monsterball paint.They have some great closeouts on co2 tanks.They only ever had the old style 98 customs.Contrary to former posts the new style 98 has a new valve design along with many other user friendly upgrades that are improvements I feel the newer designs are better as we use them for rentals and see them [good and bad]in larger quantity.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 06:29 AM

Tippmanns aren't as much "bang for the buck" as they used to be.

If you're looking for the same basic design, BT has the BT-4 out. It's basically a 98 custom with multiple improvements, and all for less than the cost of a 98c.

The US Army guns, if you want them exactly as they ship, aren't that bad I suppose.

Though I'd direct a new player to the BT-4 or save some extra up for one of the lower tier electro-pneumatic markers (used to recommend the Vibe and SP1, but holding on that until I see someone really picking up the parts/support for them).

Sure, Tippmann contributed to the history of the sport -- but so did Tom Kaye (AGD, HPA/N2), Smart Parts (buying and distributing the first real electro-pneumatic), Brass Eagle (back when they made good products), and plenty others. You cannot live in the present on the successes and reputation of the past without something to back it up in the present. Great, you did a lot for the sport. Now try to find the next great innovation, or offer a better product than you used to, or something.

I for one will not support a company solely on their past, but also on how they stack up in the present as well. That's not to say Tippmanns are awful, but they are well past their best times and others have gotten into their market with, IMO, better products.

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