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Rental Markers, Which one is good to get for customers? What would you like to see if you had to rent one. Rate Topic: ***** 1 Votes

Poll: Markers that may be available to renters. (63 member(s) have cast votes)

You enter a field and are in need to rent a marker would you choose:

  1. Tippmann 98 custom (19 votes [30.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.16%

  2. Tippmann A5 (25 votes [39.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 39.68%

  3. GTF Semi Auto (1 votes [1.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.59%

  4. Piranha Vert Feed Semi Auto (1 votes [1.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.59%

  5. Other (17 votes [26.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.98%

Which of these have you seen as a rental. Select all that apply

  1. Tippmann 98 custom (60 votes [44.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.78%

  2. Tippmann A5 (22 votes [16.42%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.42%

  3. GTF Semi Auto (2 votes [1.49%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.49%

  4. Piranha Vert Feed Semi Auto (22 votes [16.42%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.42%

  5. Other (28 votes [20.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.90%

How many people do you know that rents markers?

  1. 1-5 (43 votes [68.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 68.25%

  2. 6-10 (11 votes [17.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.46%

  3. 11-up (9 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

What's your main concern when renting a Marker (if you or your friend do) Select all that apply

  1. Quality (46 votes [30.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.26%

  2. Style (8 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  3. Reliability of Maintenance (43 votes [28.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.29%

  4. Air ( X's of refill) (15 votes [9.87%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.87%

  5. Cleanliness (27 votes [17.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.76%

  6. Time loss waiting to rent (13 votes [8.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.55%

Would you be excited to rent a pistol if offered?

  1. Yes (26 votes [41.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.27%

  2. No (9 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  3. Maybe, depends on the scenario (28 votes [44.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.44%

If you own a marker and it failed at the field, would you rent one to finish the day?

  1. Yes (17 votes [26.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.98%

  2. No (18 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  3. Maybe (28 votes [44.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.44%

(If you answered No, or Maybe to last question)What if that happened, and had proof that it was through no fault of your own. And the mgt, gave you a discounted rental fee.

  1. Yes (45 votes [71.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.43%

  2. No (18 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

What's a reasonable rental rate

  1. $10-15 (45 votes [71.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.43%

  2. $16-20 (15 votes [23.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.81%

  3. $21-30 (3 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

Check the ones you know.

  1. Tippmann 98 custom (59 votes [31.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.89%

  2. Tippmann A5 (52 votes [28.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.11%

  3. GTF Semi Auto (17 votes [9.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.19%

  4. Piranha Vert Feed Semi Auto (28 votes [15.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.14%

  5. Other, please post which. (29 votes [15.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.68%

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Post icon  Posted 27 November 2008 - 12:16 PM

I hope I placed this poll in the right place. I'm just wondering what people would be into if they had to rent a marker. Or what markers they would be interested in seeing. Simply put, what marker is best for a rental based on my questions.

I know, or better yet, taking a very educated guess, that the majority of you all own your own marker...duh right. Currently 80% of people own their own gear in paintball. Leaving 20% to rent. That being that case, what do you think people would be interested in seeing, or what have you recommended to your unfortunate peeps that don't have markers and spend their time drooling at yours.

I'm currently starting my own field and would love to have Enthusiastic Brigade members be a part of the creation. Being a brigade member myself, I know for a fact that I am going to be VERY partial to Brigade members at my field!

Thanks for the input guys. If I placed this in the wrong slot please move it. Thanks

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Almost forgot, if you've don't know any of them, let me know.

This post has been edited by Satan Von Chaos: 27 November 2008 - 12:21 PM

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 12:29 PM

I would say anything reliable that you won't have to do a lot of upkeep on and that won't breakdown easy. I think the 98C is a great marker for that reason. They're not the best, but I think they'd be cheap to buy in bulk compared to say, an A-5 and would get the job done just as well.

I think a Classic Mag would be a better rental choice, but I think that for people who rent, the 98C will do just fine. Plus even inexperienced players know what Tippmann is.

I know a few people who rent, but I wouldn't even if my Mag went down since I could always use my A-5, or my Ego when i eventually get that.
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Post icon  Posted 27 November 2008 - 01:11 PM

The A5 would require more man hours to maintain due to its cyclone. The ratchets would eventually break and have to be replaced and a5s aren't as cost effective to rent out as the 98. You have to keep in mind that when you have to buy 50 or 60 markers to rent, that extra $50-$75 adds up. My local field uses BT rentals which I think are crap. Internally they are basically the same as the 98, but ugly as hell. If I had to pick an ideal rental gun I'd probably go the 98 with ACT. If my field rented 98's and I didn't have a backup, I'd use a 98. As for a rental price, I'd like to see no more than $25 for a gun tank, mask and a pod pack. Most of your revenue is going to come from paint sales, if you make it Field paint only. For paints, I would start out offering RPS Stinger for your low grade and RPS Marballizer for your high grade. Stinger is pretty good, for the people that want better, I guarantee no one will complain about Marballizer. If they do they're crazy. (I've got some year old marballizer in my closet that still shoots perfect and is nice and round still.)

In terms of building your field, make sure you plan ahead of time. Our field developed kind of crappy in terms of layout for Scenarios, but its perfect for rec ball. We have three size options that we can choose from depending on how many people we are running. It is set up with a fan shape. Small field is obviously in front with a net running along the staging area. To play a medium field game we simply announce the first tape line null before the game. There is another tape line even further back that we announce null, to open up the full 26 acres. With the three levels we can also open up one section at a time and play a game on the middle, front or back section only. If you are able to do all this, make sure the rope is marked with different colored streamers so people know what lines they can cross according to what you announce in the staging area before each game.

Now, in terms of scenarios, make sure your large field is balanced. This is where our field kinda sucks. Balanced meaning, both Command posts are approximately equidistant from, 1.) The center of the field, 2.) Important objectives 3.) Key holding points that provide tactical advantage (bunkers, buildings, etc.) and finally, 4.) The staging area.

I'm going to point out now how my field fails at some of these points. At my field, one CP is all the way back in, well, the back. So, If you just got air or paint, you have to walk half a mile to get to the CP and tag in. Kinda sucks. Especially considering that the other CP is right next to the staging area. The other problem is that one CP is tucked back in this little funnel area behind the speedball field. So, if the enemy team gets to the top of the "funnel," you can forget about inserting because you'll be stuck at your CP. Kinda Sucks.

Ideally, you'll want it so that your frontline of fighting runs perpendicular, from the staging area, right between the both CPs. Yea, it will get pushed back and forth now and then. And, one team will bust a hole in the enemy line, but that's the fun of paintball. You want to start with an area that you have planned out to be tactically and logistically neutral. If you send me a topographical map of your property, I can draw a basic setup on it.

Perhaps I got of topic from the Marker vs. marker topic. Mods move if necessary. But anyway, if someone wants to build a park, I want it to be the best park it can be. So, I offer everything I know.
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 01:17 PM

Hello! I checked the other category, and here is what I've seen and would shoot: 68 automags, prolites, MR-1, and some phantoms.

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 01:48 PM

I'd say pick up some used pro lites. We have at the field I ref at, X7s, A5s, 98s, Pro Lights, Pro carbines, and PCS US5s. I've used every single one while playing. I would not get the A5s or X7s. We have them for extra cost and bachelors and we have just a few. They have to be maintenanced a lot! I would not get these when starting your field. The best guns I have seen are the PCS and the pro series. With the pro series you have a different looking gun, that lots of players like and you'd have the reliable name of tippman. With the PCS you get a lesser known name that works just as well, and are very easy to take care of.

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 02:30 PM

In terms of if my own marker somehow failed at the field (a nice 98C), I have 4 others and a pistol I could use and 3 of the 4 others are also 98C's.

If the rental failed through a fault not from the user, then the field should supply a replacement at no charge. Its not the players fault it failed so why should they pay again to use another.
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 02:42 PM

View Postbrettniles, on Nov 27 2008, 03:11 PM, said:

The A5 would require more man hours to maintain due to its cyclone. The ratchets would eventually break and have to be replaced and a5s aren't as cost effective to rent out as the 98. You have to keep in mind that when you have to buy 50 or 60 markers to rent, that extra $50-$75 adds up. My local field uses BT rentals which I think are crap. Internally they are basically the same as the 98, but ugly as hell. If I had to pick an ideal rental gun I'd probably go the 98 with ACT. If my field rented 98's and I didn't have a backup, I'd use a 98. As for a rental price, I'd like to see no more than $25 for a gun tank, mask and a pod pack. Most of your revenue is going to come from paint sales, if you make it Field paint only. For paints, I would start out offering RPS Stinger for your low grade and RPS Marballizer for your high grade. Stinger is pretty good, for the people that want better, I guarantee no one will complain about Marballizer. If they do they're crazy. (I've got some year old marballizer in my closet that still shoots perfect and is nice and round still.)

In terms of building your field, make sure you plan ahead of time. Our field developed kind of crappy in terms of layout for Scenarios, but its perfect for rec ball. We have three size options that we can choose from depending on how many people we are running. It is set up with a fan shape. Small field is obviously in front with a net running along the staging area. To play a medium field game we simply announce the first tape line null before the game. There is another tape line even further back that we announce null, to open up the full 26 acres. With the three levels we can also open up one section at a time and play a game on the middle, front or back section only. If you are able to do all this, make sure the rope is marked with different colored streamers so people know what lines they can cross according to what you announce in the staging area before each game.

Now, in terms of scenarios, make sure your large field is balanced. This is where our field kinda sucks. Balanced meaning, both Command posts are approximately equidistant from, 1.) The center of the field, 2.) Important objectives 3.) Key holding points that provide tactical advantage (bunkers, buildings, etc.) and finally, 4.) The staging area.

I'm going to point out now how my field fails at some of these points. At my field, one CP is all the way back in, well, the back. So, If you just got air or paint, you have to walk half a mile to get to the CP and tag in. Kinda sucks. Especially considering that the other CP is right next to the staging area. The other problem is that one CP is tucked back in this little funnel area behind the speedball field. So, if the enemy team gets to the top of the "funnel," you can forget about inserting because you'll be stuck at your CP. Kinda Sucks.

Ideally, you'll want it so that your frontline of fighting runs perpendicular, from the staging area, right between the both CPs. Yea, it will get pushed back and forth now and then. And, one team will bust a hole in the enemy line, but that's the fun of paintball. You want to start with an area that you have planned out to be tactically and logistically neutral. If you send me a topographical map of your property, I can draw a basic setup on it.

Perhaps I got of topic from the Marker vs. marker topic. Mods move if necessary. But anyway, if someone wants to build a park, I want it to be the best park it can be. So, I offer everything I know.



Wow, now this is the type of input I am looking for. As for the field I assure you, money is no object compared to what I like in a field. I love paintball, Insanely fanatical for the game. So plan for this insanity to be transferred into field design. NOT to mention that I've been in the planning phase for over 9 months now and am currently in the market for land and I'm driving my agent crazy! A lot of emphases in being put in scenario and field logistics, so be safe in the knowledge that my goal is to impress my fellow Brigade member.
Be also aware that I'm not doing this to get rich, I could care less about money, I want to be happy and I want to play. If I can get 100 people as excited about this as I am, and If I had them in my field every weekend, then I will be truly happy. Sick huh?

As for the markers, my goal is to have new players excited about the game, and to give you ol' timers an easy replacement is case something goes wrong.

I'm geared towards Mil-Sim, but rest assure in no way am I skimping out on you speedballers. You'll see! LOL Good Lord Willing! LOL

Keep this going!
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 02:48 PM

rentals can be very tricky to decide on. my field uses tippmann 98 customs as the standard rental and also has many A-5s as well. they also have one or two of many different models of speedball markers (I'm mostly woods so I don't know them that well) and some other woods like the SP-1, ions, the DM series, and the tac 8. they also provide a tac 8, holster, extra mag, and 12 grams on occasion for someone to use in a single match just to make things more interesting for like a VIP or President game. the other thing that I like about my field is that they rent out some individual parts like hoppers, air tanks, and CO2 tanks
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 03:03 PM

at the field i worked at, we had BT-4 rentals, pretty good, easy to clean. you should look into them. you can get pretty good deals on em
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 06:00 PM

Your're missing out on Arrow Precision Infernos. They're stacked tube blowbacks similar to a Piranah but built with much higher quality. They are definitely built nicer than any Tippmann made today and are much easier to maintain. They're simple and clean looking, rugged, and surprisingly nice markers.

Piranhas are great if you're looking to save some money. Every rental marker gets bashed for performing badly and it's not really the marker's fault. Most markers used as rentals are actually pretty good markers, they just get so abused and worn that they begin to perform poorly.
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 06:12 PM

Most fields I've played on in the U.S. and around the world offer some Tippman model as a rental. I have also seen various Spyders and other "lower-end" blowback guns, as well as an occasional Ion or other basic electro at some fields. Still see a few pumps here and there, but mostly out of the U.S. Really depends on what kind of staff you have to do repairs and maintenance and how much time/$$ you want to spend on it. I don't rent, but I'd expect to see any good field with 98's or similar as rentals, with maybe a few A-5's and some electros for a higher rental rate. I always bring extra markers, but I'd rent if I had no other option to finish a day of playng.
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 08:49 PM

SmartParts has rental packages for their Vibe markers.. I've owned an SP-1 for well over a year now and the nice thing is how reliable it is and the fact it never breaks paint. The low force bolt really works.
Being an electro-pnumatic though, you will need to keep up with the 9v battery, but they easily last for several days of play. The custom 98 seems to be one of the most popular rental markers. The field I frequent most has both as rental options. The biggest thing that kills rental marker performance is scratches in the barrels, comming mostly from dirt that ends up in hoppers from inexperienced folks attempting to use paint they may have dropped on the ground.

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 09:56 PM

View PostOrpackrat, on Nov 27 2008, 04:30 PM, said:

In terms of if my own marker somehow failed at the field (a nice 98C), I have 4 others and a pistol I could use and 3 of the 4 others are also 98C's.

If the rental failed through a fault not from the user, then the field should supply a replacement at no charge. Its not the players fault it failed so why should they pay again to use another.



I guess the question posed is if you bring your own marker and IT fails through no fault of your own...would you rent and if not would you anyway if a discount is offered.

I agree with you though, if the rental failed then you just get a new one...kinda shady if you have to pay for a new one no?
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 01:25 AM

I personall own a X-7 and an Ion. I have played with Autocockers, 98Cs, A-5's, Vibes, Sp-1s, BTs, and an arrangment of pistols. For a rental I believe the BT combats would be my choice for their CO2 capability and their ease of maintainence. That is if I were buying rentals. The field we usually play at has some vibes for rentals. Which seem a great upgrade from the old 98Cs they rent. I've watch them clean them and they also seem very easy to maintain. I think they can us CO2 also, but they run heavy HPA tanks on them. Hope this helps. :happy:

Ps: Pistols are fun as a bit of flavor, but the CO2 cartriges are kind spendy compared to constant air. As a player I don't think I would rent one, but I do own my own. :D

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 08:08 AM

Forget Piranahs. They can't take abuse. Get Spyders or throw away icons instead.

BT-4 are basically the same qulaity as 98C's and cheaper to buy for you.



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