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#1 User is offline   BlackLight Z 

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 01:33 PM

OK, out of the box, the marker has a pretty sexy look to it.
It is actually pretty much a carbon copy of the MP7
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It is very light, at first I thought it felt too light, almost cheap. But it grew on me...quickly. The highpoint of the TM7 is definatly the selector switch. Out of the box it will go semi, burst, and ramp to full auto. Very useful if you really get in the thick of it. You can also customize the board to your needs. Internals are basically the same as the Invert Mini from what I hear, I don't have a Mini but have been told so. The TM7 also has an adjustable stock that quickly adapts to the needs of the situation whether in CQB or open terrain. Size is excellent, think they've done a near perfect job of blending a standard tourney marker with a mil-sim. Also, battery very easy to access to rear of grip, no tools needed. Will also turn off after an our of no activity on safe mode to save battery life. Has mini-style(cocker) barrel threads and will take down to a 4" barrel which really shortens it up(barely sticks out of the reciever). I've chosen to go with the C-series and the Apex adapter tip. Also, this is not an "Air Hog", very very efficient with air, could be the most efficient I've ever used. Played all day on a 4500 tank.

Edit: Just noticed that it does come with a stock cap, so if you want to take the stock off, you can cap the end after doing so.

Only available mod right now is the double trigger pictured below, rumors of a rip clip in the works. I would love to see an aluminum body made for this, as well as some tougher aftermarket parts.
Edit: Mook of Shadow Company did fall and subsequently snap his feedneck as well as the rail off his marker. Believe he had to get a whole new body and selector switch from Tippmann Pros. Those of you who know mook should not be surprised.

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Downsides are the stock seems a little fragile when fully extended, and the open sites on the marker are mostly unusable( I actually removed the rear sight comepletely. Also, only runs on N2(no CO2) and you almost have to run a remote line which doesn't bother me at all. Other than that I have't noticed any other issues, but will revise if I do after further use.

Edit: Also, as I learned from a teammate, first generation makers selector switch labeling is painted on(which rubs off fairly quickly) as opposed to stamped in later generations. If you are wanting to purchase, I recommend having the dealer open the box so you can see it was stamped as opposed to painted as this can be dangerous down the line when individuals don't know the status of the marker. Should also help avoid problems like the on/off switch on Gen 1 markers. Additionally, taking the marker apart is not unlike taking a 98C apart, but it's a little easier I think. Just get a cup and put your parts in it, and remeber long screw on the bottom, short on top. Finally, I've also been told, that just like invert minis, they may have issues in the rain. So if you are in the SPPL, and this is your marker, bring a mechanical backup.

This is an extremely functional marker, but still maintains a very sexy look. Most importantly though, its a blast to play with. I made a lateral move on someone to some cover that left him exposed to me. He tried to flip it and steal the initiative and make a similar lateral move on me. All I did was flip the selector switch from semi to auto and threw so much paint at him he wilted when he took about 5 to the chest. nice to have that available, I highly recomend this marker. I had more fun playing with this marker than any other marker I've ever played with.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. Oh yeah, price is just under $400 right now. picked mine up at http://www.tippmannpros.com/

Edit: Bought the double trigger from Nick at Tippmann Pros the other day as well, will post a assembled pic if people want to see that. Also got a couple of Spec Ops C-Series barrels, the C-Series Apex Adapdter, and an Apex Tip(interchangable with my Tac 1). Pretty excited. Pictured below, also note double trigger.
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below is a pic of me(left with multicams) playing with it on Nov 15th at the Pit near Longmont CO so yo uknow I'm not jerking your chain.
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View PostMondoMor, on Nov 28 2008, 10:22 AM, said:

I did a further test on the TM-7's voltage thresholds:

If battery is > 8.5V, LED is GREEN
If battery is > 8.2V, but < 8.5V, LED is ORANGE
If battery is < 8.2V, LED is RED

Voltages are approximate. Boards may vary slightly, and keep in mind batteries will "recover" some of their voltage when removed from a load, so you may pull a battery out of your orange-blinking TM-7 and have it read 8.7V.



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The BT TM-7 utilizes Mini Technology to inflict maximum force from a marker of minimal size. Don’t be fooled by the size of the TM-7’s exterior; it can hang with the big boys and is by no means a lightweight. Once you hold one and pull the trigger, you won’t want to put it down. Its lightweight, yet durable construction is perfect for close quarters or long-range combat. This is the marker that just may have people rethink the way they looked at Mil-Sim paintball markers.

The BT TM-7 Paintball Gun Features:
- Mini Technology Inside
- Shift-On-The-Fly, 4-Position Mode Switch
- Multiple, Extensive Firing Modes Including Semi/Burst/Full-Auto
- Multiple Picatinny Rails Allow For Extra Accessories
- Adjustable, Multi-Position Stock
- Collapsible/Adjustable Front Grip
- Low Pressure Operation
- No External Hoses; Internal Airline Operation
- Additional Modes: NPPL/PSP/NXL/Millennium
- Universal Mini-Style Barrel Threads

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 01:58 PM

Thanks for the review.


It actually looks like an MP7. :dodgy:

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 02:29 PM

good review..first Decent looking/performing mil sim marker ive seen
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 02:59 PM

View PostDigitalPirate, on Nov 22 2008, 01:58 PM, said:

Thanks for the review.It actually looks like an MP7. :(
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wow thats almost a carbon copy
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 03:01 PM

hence the M and 7 in the name :(
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 03:27 PM

I figured as much
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 03:42 PM

Sounds like a nice capable mil-slim marker. The only thing I don't like about is that it can only run on N2, what's that about?
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 03:44 PM

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Sounds like a nice capable mil-slim marker. The only thing I don't like about is that it can only run on N2, what's that about?

co2 is bad for most markers..why wouldent you want to use air any way?
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 03:51 PM

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Sounds like a nice capable mil-slim marker. The only thing I don't like about is that it can only run on N2, what's that about?

co2 is bad for most markers..why wouldent you want to use air any way?



Because N2 and HPA tanks are to BOINKing expensive. But I guess if you can afford a $400 marker you can afford a $160 tank.
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 04:56 PM

Our team may soon be getting sponsored by BT and be getting these cheap. :) :dodgy:

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 06:17 PM

View Postoutlaw-master, on Nov 22 2008, 04:51 PM, said:

Because N2 and HPA tanks are to BOINKing expensive. But I guess if you can afford a $400 marker you can afford a $160 tank.


HPA fills are often cheaper though. I've seen a few fields that don't have unlimited CO2 due to cost of bringing it in, but because they have a compressor there's an unlimited HPA fill for walk-on.
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 07:20 PM

View Postoutlaw-master, on Nov 22 2008, 05:51 PM, said:

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View Postoutlaw-master, on Nov 22 2008, 04:42 PM, said:

Sounds like a nice capable mil-slim marker. The only thing I don't like about is that it can only run on N2, what's that about?

co2 is bad for most markers..why wouldent you want to use air any way?



Because N2 and HPA tanks are to BOINKing expensive. But I guess if you can afford a $400 marker you can afford a $160 tank.


I have two HPA 72ci 3000psi tanks for $140.00. It all depends on where you shop, and if you buy steel tanks.
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 10:22 PM

air is also considerably more consistent that C02. give you a much better grouping
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Posted 23 November 2008 - 12:17 PM

I disagree on the necessity of a remote. My 68/45 on my TM7 feels excellent.
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Posted 23 November 2008 - 10:34 PM

There are a few complaints I have about this marker. One of the guys on my team purchased a TM-7 sight unseen, the week it came out. Having put plenty of trigger time on it, we've managed to uncover the strong points, as well as some annoyances.

First, it is a very nice performer. It shoots great: consistent, quiet, light, accurate (with the aid of a Freak kit), and very cool looking. My teammate has no complaints as far as the putting balls down range goes. It hits targets with the best of 'em.

The problems comes in after the game is over, and you want to maintain the thing. As nicely as the TM-7 is designed for throwing paint, it's equally poorly designed for maintenance. In order to do prettymuch anything, you've got to pop the receiver halves apart. After owning a 98C a while back, this isn't too horribly annoying, but it is rather inconvenient. There is NO field stripping or quick stripping. In fact, pulling apart the TM-7 is even a little reminiscent of the 98 in that you've got a bunch of little parts to keep track of and make sure are in the right place.

But the worst is the wiring. It uses little molex connectors that aren't really designed to be disconnected but for a couple times. So far, they seem to be holding up. It's the solenoid wires themselves that take the beating. The TM-7 we have is currently out of commission because a solenoid wire got pinched during a reassembly, and now doesn't complete the circuit.

There are other minor complaints too. Unlike it's cousin the Mini, the TM-7's plastic shell includes a plastic grip frame. This is great for making it light, but if you want to run tank-on-gun, it makes for a very minor tank wobble that gets pretty annoying IMO. I'd probably be worried about eventual fatigue causing the frame to break.

All in all, it's a great performer, but it doesn't maintain easily. It's a nice marker, but I knowing what I know now, I wouldn't purchase one retail.

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