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#61 User is offline   Liquid Plummer 

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Posted 23 December 2008 - 03:46 PM

Either 31 or 34. Checking them would be wise. You might also want to check your On/Off o-rings. If these are chewed or worn out you will get weird things happening during air-up and regular play.
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Posted 23 December 2008 - 03:50 PM

As you will notice from the two pictures, there is quite a bit different between the Classic valve and the ReTro valve. The X-Valve is an aluminum version of the ReTro valve. The RT (NOT ReTro) valve is itself also different due to the routing of the air in the frame instead of hoses.
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 08:11 PM

hello everyone,

i have recently come across a fair amount of cash and i have been thinking about getting a mag but not sure where do start out i was hoping that you all would help me out, so what would be a good place to start for a automag noob?

thank you so much in advance.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 08:50 PM

Not sure where to point you. I just kinda jump into things lol. I traded a sniper for my first mag (Tac One, kinda).

Now the only thing left from that is the valve and the bike grip. But so far, I'm very happy with mine. It's a ULE body, X-Valve,ULT trigger kit, RPG rail, Logic UMF frame. The tac one body was ok but I don't use any Picatinny accessories and it's a bigger pain to clean marker hits off of.

Here's mine with the older RPG Recon rail (really wish I had a black body :) ).
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Been awhile since I posted in here :( Thanks to you guys who posted up the warp feed pics. I'll have to take a quick picture of mine as it is now and post it up. I think I'm going to get a Luke's Custom warp forward mount and try that too.
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 08:55 PM

Weber...I'd get something new from AGD so that you know it's good to go from the box.

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I have a problem with my Pro Classic......It has a MiniMag valve BTW....

I air the UNbarreled marker up and it's all good.

I fire 5-10 slow semi shots and everything is still good.

the 11th shot (or so...happens randomly but ALWAYS after a few good semi shots), it acts like the bolt holds open and air comes flying out the barrel.

To make matters worse, I air up the marker without the barrel and all's good.

I add the barrel and it starts blowing air out the barrel...as if the bolt is too long.

WTH????
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Posted 01 January 2009 - 10:07 AM

Druid, that makes absolutly no sence.

Me thinking and writing to keep track:
no barrel, front bolt cycles fine, the bolt moves forward fully, spring compresses. moves bolt back, catches on the thingy, ready to cycle again.

with barrel. bolt moves forward, spring does not fully compress. bolt does not return to catch thingy, air comes out becuase bolt is out of position.
( the barrel could be a little long, by pushing against the spring that might effect the compression ability of the spring, and really effect the return pressure of the spring)

could be: Spring is weak, barrel is interacting with spring. The thing that catches the bolt is not ctaching the bolt.




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Posted 01 January 2009 - 10:52 AM

yeah I know.....it's freaking me out. Can't get it to stop leaking and I've tried 3 bolts/springs. I use a Foamie bolt and this just started after my last day of play...
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Posted 01 January 2009 - 11:12 AM

Do you have another twist lock barrel you can try? I'd like to think it has to be related to the barrel.
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Posted 01 January 2009 - 10:45 PM

I guess I can try that but it does it without the barrels on too...just quicker with the barrel on....
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Posted 01 January 2009 - 10:57 PM

What you're describing druid sounds like either you have a powertube o-ring issue, or your powertube spacer is too tall and needs to be replaced with a shorter one. The spacers are not the same as the ones on the Lvl 10 kit. The MM/AM spacers are different lengths while the Lvl 10 carriers that look like spacers are different inner diameters.
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Posted 02 January 2009 - 12:42 AM

View PostLiquid Plummer, on Jan 2 2009, 12:57 AM, said:

What you're describing druid sounds like either you have a powertube o-ring issue, or your powertube spacer is too tall and needs to be replaced with a shorter one. The spacers are not the same as the ones on the Lvl 10 kit. The MM/AM spacers are different lengths while the Lvl 10 carriers that look like spacers are different inner diameters.


Thanks but what confuses me is that - nothing has changed so I can't see why would I need to replace the powertube tip or spacer..?

I mean...it worked....then not work...lol. I've done nothing 'new' to the marker (as far as upgrades) so that has me puzzled. I'll look into getting the ORing though....happen to know what size?
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Posted 02 January 2009 - 08:52 AM

Ah, but orings wear out and that could be the cause of the problem.....
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Posted 02 January 2009 - 08:52 AM

sometimes o-rings and seals just fail in weird ways. There always has to be a point of "failure" though. You know, the point at which transitions from working to non-working. :D

I wish I could tell you what the size is, but I cannot. I have no idea. I do know that it is the same size as the large white o-rings in the on/off. I think you can still buy AM/MM o-ring kits that have all of them for pretty darn cheap.
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Posted 02 January 2009 - 08:57 AM

Beat ya to the punch on the orings LP! :D
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Posted 02 January 2009 - 08:58 AM

darn! while I was typing it even. :D sneaky.
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