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#1 User is offline   Illusion 

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 08:17 PM

Hi,

I’m a new member of this forum and I wanted to share a little information you may find interesting regarding paintball silencers. For the record I ran this information by Puzuma before posting here.

I recently received a letter from the ATF which has made a determination that the paintball "silencer" I submitted to them "...IS NOT a firearm muffler or firearm silencer as defined".

A little background; I sent them a length of fiberglass pipe insulation. More specifically it is designed for use with 1/2-inch pipe. It's inside diameter is .84-inches, has a wall thickness of 1-inch and has a white flexible foil lined paintable jacket on the outside. It just happens to be a tight fit over the stock barrel of my Autococker, and fits just as well on the J&J 2-piece barrel that I use on that marker. The key here is that I picked up a product that I already had in my garage and used it as-is to silence my marker.

More good news is that this material is very common in large buildings and it's cheap! A 3 foot long stick cost me about eight dollars. Cut in half this would make two "silencers".

Important note; Don't buy the foam kind they sell at all the home improvement stores, it doesn't work. The fiberglass kind is a little harder to find but you should be able to find it in any large city. Think commercial building supplies.

Because many of you will be skeptical about the validity of this posting I have scanned copies of my letter from the ATF attached. You can find the rest of my correspondence with the ATF as well as some pictures at http://www.paintball.bwalter.net
look under “silencer” on the left side.

Thanks

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 08:20 PM

Thats nice, but dont expect the Field Owner let you use your ATF Approved Silencer on the Field.
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 08:21 PM

Hey welcome to the forum!

That's pretty cool that you were able to get a "silencer" approved by the ATF.
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 08:28 PM

I wonder who the first person is going to be that doesn't put "silencer" in quotes :P.
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 08:30 PM

Thats cool! Pics my man, pics.

Oops. :P

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 08:38 PM

View PostEvil Fingers, on Oct 3 2008, 10:20 PM, said:

Thats nice, but dont expect the Field Owner let you use your ATF Approved Silencer on the Field.


Perhaps, but I play on private property.

Also I did my part in getting it approved. It's someone else's job to convince others to let you use it.
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 08:43 PM

But does it keep the rain out? :P
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 08:43 PM

So now that you have discovered such, how well does it supress the noise; though your page does say about it, I'd love to hear a video or some such thing.

Very cool find mate.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 08:56 PM

View PostHawk1216, on Oct 3 2008, 10:43 PM, said:

So now that you have discovered such, how well does it supress the noise?


I haven't used a professionally made silencer with a paintball gun so I can't compare with that. But I did make a couple of the home-made types that can be found elsewhere on the Internet. I have since thrown those away because this works better. The people I play against and with are pretty impressed. The noise of the ball flying through the air toward you is at least as loud as the sound from the muzzle of my pump 'Cocker. Think of it this way, it's the stuffing from the inside of a home-made silencer without needing all the plumbing to keep it out of the flight path of the ball. But don't take my word for it. Try it.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 09:37 PM

Evil Fingers, I've never seen a field owner who takes offense to Silencers. SOF is probably the only place on the net that, because of its corporate ties, distances itself so thoroughly from the subject.
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 09:48 PM

I just read the article on your website, and correct me if i am wrong but, the silencer reduces the sound of your marker by 4 db's?
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 09:49 PM

The field owner at the field I play at, has a few taso raincovers displayed on the wall :(

Sometimes they 'fall off' into a game of cat and mouse out on the field (lone sniper) (him using, not me...I wish though)

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 09:51 PM

View Postrussc, on Oct 3 2008, 09:37 PM, said:

Evil Fingers, I've never seen a field owner who takes offense to Silencers. SOF is probably the only place on the net that, because of its corporate ties, distances itself so thoroughly from the subject.

I never said that a Silencer would Offend a Field Owner and the decision to allow someone who has been approved by the ATF to use a Silencer on a Paintball Gun is solely up on the Owner/s of the Field and thats if their Field Insurance also allows it to be used as well.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 09:57 PM

I think we need a video. I'm really curious to hear the difference.
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 10:07 PM

Yeah- I'd like to see/hear it for myself and how well it works. Sounds like it works well, though. Cool.

Congrats on finding a work-around for what is usually a difficult process. I still have my ancient, pre-ban mufflers BUT I also have the required ATF paperwork, and since I work for the DoD, it's a bit easier for me. I also have been playing with one a lot in Europe/Central Asia, where suppressor laws differ- in fact in several European nations, they're not only legal, but encouraged as "gentlemanly" solutions to the problem of firearms report at indoor and outdoor ranges. Very strange, no?

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