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#31 User is offline   Agnoeo 

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 06:41 PM

Heh heh, I bought a VL Genesis as my first marker. That thing is atleast 5 years old and never cleaned or greased it and also let it sit for 2 years till I got to my first station, found out we had a field here and took it out to play with. Honestly, I love the thing and wont get rid of it. I always cleaned the outside of the gun when I was done with it for the day, but honestly never thought about the internals that much. Newb thing for me.

The marker I bought now is just as awesome because its exactly what I like. I still don't mess with electo's just because I don't want to mess with all the gadgets when my game style is quite simple.

Guess the point I'm getting at is the kid will either have a marker that he can have fun with any marker he buys. Best thing I could say is help him with upkeep and teaching him how to strip it and good upkeep without making him feel like an idiot. I was lucky when I first started, I had people I didn't even know help me out with my internals, and because of players and just good people like that, I love playing more than ever. Although this generation under me slowly TINKLEes me of with their lack of respect. But thats another issue...

I liked tippy's though and as far as I saw they always seemed to work well with little difficulties. I personally wouldn't buy one, but thats just my oppinion if I had to buy anything that shot more that 1-3bps.
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Posted 05 October 2008 - 07:33 PM

There are better starter guns than tippys, mainly due to the terrible resale value. It's not worth buying a gun you'll probably replace if you can't get anything for it.

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Posted 21 October 2008 - 01:58 PM

You wanna know a good starter gun? Whatever you have. Really, starting out, it isn't a big deal, it'll take a while before you're good enough to be hindered by a gun. As for my actual recommendations, PMI piranhas. STBB (i.e. "Spyder clone") that actually uses standard PB fittings. No offset hole ASAs and crap.
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Posted 24 October 2008 - 10:11 AM

View Postblueys13, on Oct 1 2008, 11:33 AM, said:

can someone tell me if the X7 22" SUPER SNIPER BARREL will work on a A-5 tippmann gun.i dont know anything about guns but i bought it for someone and im not sure if its the right one now...so can anybody tell me...?? thank u!!!

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Yes, X7 and A5 barrels are interchangeable between the two- same threads. But I hope you have a 22" squeegee to go with that barrel....

View Posttippmann addict, on Sep 29 2008, 03:20 PM, said:

haha so the other day, this kid i know wanted to start playing paintball with us and was like what gun should i get. and i told him the tippmann 98 cuz its cheap, easy to work with and upgradable. and he was like no way tippmann sucks, i think the viewloader and all them are better. so he went out and bought a viewloader???? wow dumb huh! for real i had my tippmann 98 custom pro for 4 years and have it upgraded with g36 stuff and scopes and all and it works as the best gun i ever shot. but i guess viewloader is better??


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View Postklaatu, on Oct 1 2008, 12:56 PM, said:

lol ... there is nothing wrong wrong with tippmanns ..i 've got an A5 and a 98 .. they are nearly indestrucable ... i have dropped them , thrown them , stomped on them, fallen on them .. they take a lickin and keep on tickin ... i also however have aDM8, DM7, 06Ego and an 08Ego ... all of these gats are great for their specific purpose .. throwing paint ... i love using the A5 when we go to an indoor course here cuz it is basically a big metal sound amplifier, and that A5 is so BOINKing loud !!!!! hahahahaha .. it scares the crap outof everybody !!!!

bottom line, play with whatever you like and can afford, and don't give a crap about what anybody else says about it .. you're the one who's having fun , right ?


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View PostCAN77, on Oct 1 2008, 04:26 PM, said:

Someone that is new needs to by the base line, and learn how to take people out of a game. If they are spoiled and get a DM8 for christmas for a first gun, they will never fully respect paintball like it should be, and if they continue in paintball they will never have as much skill as they could have.

This and ignorance is where the essentials of the entire noob=bad with markers comes from. All of my paintball stuff I bought myself, and respected it to the upmost level. After my first game using my 98c, I took it home, took it apart, cleaned it, lubed it, and put it back together (sure I forgot to put the ball latch back in and had to use a rental next time out, until I called Tippmann and got another one, but thats besides the point). I sold candy at school for a month before I had enough money even to get a starter kit. I knew the value of it, I knew how long it took to get it, I screamed at my brother for leaving it in his car -- which has been broken into before -- overnight. Now I won't even let my brother use my marker (Virtued PM7), because I know how bad he is at respecting his own stuff, let alone anyone elses.

If my parents had got me all that stuff without question, without telling me to take care of it, without making me do something to earn it, I probably wouldn't care, I would probably bring it home after a day of play, throw it on the bed, put it on the floor when I go to sleep, and not care at all. Some kids are just stupid, but I believe most of the fault falls with the parents who are willing to spoil their kids. There is a fine line between spoiling and giving your kids a better life than what you had.

Yeah, I suppose so.
Although Not all kids are like that. I agree it's good to have to work toward something you want (and in many cases, I'm glad I had to). However some people (myself included) do have a respect for things they get whether it was given to them or not.


Anyway, now for my 2 cents-

I own a tippmann (A5). It's the best gun I have ever used. For one simple reason- so far I have owned 2 paintball guns. The first one sucked terribly, and after watching all my friends I play with using 98's and an A5, all of which performed just peachy, I tossed my original marker and got an A5, which (so far) has worked just fine. When a friend of mine was just starting up, I mentioned that he should check out a tippmann as a starting gun- he did, and now also owns a 98 which so far has worked flawlessly.

I don't buy into all the crazy upgrades and stuff (although a new barrel was a must, and a stock would probably be useful sometimes)- I mean, come one- the thing's heavy enough as is.
I will admit that I like a well done milsim customized marker as much as any one, but I know I don't need all that stuff to be a good player. So if some new guy wants to get carried away with all the cosmetics, I agree that it's good to let them know the money could be better spent, but other than that, if they want to do it, let them!! They'll come around eventually.

I know there are other guns that would work a million times better than any tippmann (and a recent trip to a field event proved this), including some begginner guns, but the A5 was what was right for me at the time I got it. I mean, yeah it's not gonna be worth much if I ever sell it, but if I waited around for the perfect gun, I'd never play at all. Plus I'd rather make newbish mistakes with my Tippmann, than with something that's actually gonna break if I screw up....

So yeah, /2 cents
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Posted 24 October 2008 - 10:26 AM

I began with an SL68 II. Then a 98. Too bad tippmann chose to go that way. I will use old tippy's but the A5 and up, I am not interested. I used a 98 for a while, and didn't mind it, but it is not the perfect starter marker. It is all personal preference. If I could go back and had to choose a marker around 100.00 I wish I had gone BT-4 instead...
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Posted 24 October 2008 - 10:52 AM

I used to be a Tippmann fanboy, my guess is it started because I had a crappy Brass Eagle and then when I bought a 98, it seemed like the best thing ever. Then I actually shot a larger variety of guns, thank god those days are gone.
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Posted 24 October 2008 - 12:24 PM

I can't say anything for or against any other guns because I am still playing with my original gun. I will say that despite all the posts that ragged on the Tippmann guns mine has served me well. The only time I ever had a problem with it was when I was playing in the rain at 35 degrees farenheit and my paintballs would break in the barrel (and that was mostly due to crappy paint that someone got me for my birthday). I don't see why your starting marker should be such a big deal. As long as you find one that will shoot a paintball every time you pull the trigger (providing you load it) and will shoot that paintball in the general direction that you point, you are set.
One of my first times playing I went to a game where everyone but me and my little sister had their "super guns". I saw everything from the mil-sim look to the sleek fast shooting speedball designs. I had a rental Tippmann 98 that I couldn't get to shoot faster than 190 fps. Guess what happened. . . . .
. . . that's right I had a great time and even managed to hold my ground. I learned to work with my gun. The other team had a guy that was sniping us from behind some thick brambles and nobody could get a shot through to him. (this was before the days of the Apex) I took a couple practice shots to get my angle right and then unloaded on his position. My rental that most players would call "worthless" took out the main defender on the other team. My sister snuck up on a guy that was shooting full auto and had us at a standstill and before he even saw her she popped him right in the chest.
I guess my point would be: If a first time player is more worried about what kind of gun he is toting than how much fun he has or how well he does, then he is not getting the full experience.
I still use my original tippmann 98 and I will continue to take care of it so that one day I can pass it on to my son and he can have the same great experience with paintball that i have had. I love my gun, but I love the sport more.
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Posted 25 October 2008 - 06:49 PM

Wow, just as I was reading this me my mom (Red Dawn was today) comes in and tells me she dosen't want to use the PM6 or Tob 9 anymore. (She used a really grimy A5 I don't think its been cleaned in 2 years) She wants to build her own A5. Just throwing that out there.
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Posted 26 October 2008 - 06:10 AM

I'd rather have a Viewloader than a Tippmann any day of the week; with the Viewloader, you spend half as much for the same performance, but don't have to spend 2 hours searching for the the sear spring in your carpet fibers everytime you clean it. :wacko:

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Posted 26 October 2008 - 08:08 AM

View Postblueys13, on Oct 1 2008, 01:33 PM, said:

can someone tell me if the X7 22" SUPER SNIPER BARREL will work on a A-5 tippmann gun.i dont know anything about guns but i bought it for someone and im not sure if its the right one now...so can anybody tell me...?? thank u!!!

yes they will work, but maybe you should've made sure it would've before you bought it.

and BTW you could have just as much of a consistent shot pattern, if not better, with a barrel half the size of that. just saying.
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 10:42 AM

View Posttippmann addict, on Sep 29 2008, 06:20 PM, said:

haha so the other day, this kid i know wanted to start playing paintball with us and was like what gun should i get. and i told him the tippmann 98 cuz its cheap, easy to work with and upgradable. and he was like no way tippmann sucks, i think the viewloader and all them are better. so he went out and bought a viewloader???? wow dumb huh! for real i had my tippmann 98 custom pro for 4 years and have it upgraded with g36 stuff and scopes and all and it works as the best gun i ever shot. but i guess viewloader is better??



Where to start with this one? Well I am going off what Puzuma said, instead of just making fun and calling him stupid why not try and help him? I'm not saying make him buy a Tippmann but maybe show him yours, let him shoot it, let him know what the pros and cons are of the Tippmann vs another marker. There is also no reason to flame the kid for marker choice, I am a big fan of the live and learn philosophy. After all, markers are material possessions and can be bought and sold. If he buys a viewloader and doesn't like it, he can take that experience and use it when looking for his next better gun. How are we supposed to take you seriously as well? Your basically just giving us a he said she said story, then you add in how your gun is better because it has "stuff" on it. Like what "stuff"? I also agree, that yes, Tippmann is good but there are other markers out there that are better. Ask questions, its his marker not yours, so see what he wants, and then offer suggestions not insults.

View PostMinnesota Sn1p3r, on Sep 30 2008, 08:27 PM, said:

Ha, what an idiot, a Tippmann 98c is the perfect starter gun!!! Its a Tippmann, its simple to use, easily upgradable(Just like all tippmanns), and itI'm isphilosophy really cheap, but durable, the PERFECT gun for a new player. -MNSC :D


See my reasons above as there is no reason to call someone a idiot over marker choice.

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