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Posted 25 November 2011 - 08:06 PM

9mm barrel, 9mm mag. .40 barrel, .40 mag. The feed lip geometry is different, and the 9mm won't feed properly from a .40 mag.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 11:48 AM

So the glock mags all seat the same I guess...that's pretty cool.

I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get myself a glock27 for CHRISTmas/birthday this year, but I want to also be able to shoot 9mm depending on...well whatever.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 12:00 PM

View PostTenacious221, on 26 November 2011 - 12:48 PM, said:

So the glock mags all seat the same I guess...that's pretty cool.


Almost.

The 9mm/,40/.357 Sigs do.

.45 ACP is different because of size considerations. I'm not sure what .45 GAP is (but really, who wants that anyway?)
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 06:34 PM

The G20 and 21 mags also seat the same, so a G21 .45 frame can run a 10mm conversion barrel (in moderation). Not sure how that works vice versa though. I think the 10mm's barrel slot is to narrow to accept a .45 ACP. Damn shame, the G20's frame is a lot tougher.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 08:59 PM

What I've seemed to find is that glocks can only ever convert DOWN in caliber.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 11:26 PM

View PostTexas Trigger, on 25 November 2011 - 04:10 PM, said:

What kind of .40? And how well used?

IT is a S&W Sigma and it looks relatively new. Shows signs of being fired but not heavy use.

Put a down payment on it so in Jan when I am 21 I am paying the balance and picking it up.

Also PW and Thalion, I am thinking about picking up a mosin for hunting. What should I look for when I purchase one to greater my chances of getting a good one?
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Posted 27 November 2011 - 08:34 AM

Pop out the bolt and look down the bore. Make sure the rifilng is strong and the barrel is not pitted.

A nice trigger or smooth bolt is nice, but a bad barrel will never shoot well. Other problems can be "fixed" later, not the barrel.

Sigma's are what I like to call "Glock-offs". They actually got sued by Glock over the similarities. Might not be my first choice, but it'll do the trick most of the time.

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 11:19 AM

View PostPistolWhipped, on 27 November 2011 - 10:34 AM, said:

Pop out the bolt and look down the bore. Make sure the rifilng is strong and the barrel is not pitted.

A nice trigger or smooth bolt is nice, but a bad barrel will never shoot well. Other problems can be "fixed" later, not the barrel.

Sigma's are what I like to call "Glock-offs". They actually got sued by Glock over the similarities. Might not be my first choice, but it'll do the trick most of the time.

thanks for the advice on the Mosin.
As for the sigma. It would not be my first choice either, but it was in my price range and I liked how it felt when I held it.
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Posted 27 November 2011 - 01:29 PM

If you liked how it felt in your hand, then it'll work fine.

The gun is reliable enough - I knew a guy with the 9mm version. He ran into a few problems with it, and had me troubleshoot it for him. I could not find anything wrong with the gun, just seemed that with certain light loads it was more susceptible to limp-wrist induced problems.

If you don't limp wrist it, it'll run reliably. If you do, you can run into problems. That's true of any semi-automatic handgun, but the Sigma is a little more prone to those problems than anything else I've tested.
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Posted 27 November 2011 - 04:46 PM

Well I plan on shooting it enough to not limp wrist it. Thanks for giving me a opinion that consists of more then "its a piece of crap dont buy it"
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Posted 27 November 2011 - 06:45 PM

IIRC, old model Sigmas can actually take certain Glock parts, like the firing pin for example. They really were THAT close.
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Posted 27 November 2011 - 08:02 PM

View PostPistolWhipped, on 27 November 2011 - 08:45 PM, said:

IIRC, old model Sigmas can actually take certain Glock parts, like the firing pin for example. They really were THAT close.

well maybe ill get lucky and have one old enough that I can swap in a glock firing pin if mine breaks LOL.
Also are there any aftermarket options for triggers for these things. The one it has looks like it would be awkward to use. Maybe I am wrong though and will like it or atleast learn to like it.
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Posted 27 November 2011 - 09:00 PM

I was never aware of any aftermarket parts for the Sigma series pistols. That doesn't mean they don't exist, just that I never came across any.

I don't think PW was trying to suggest the firing pin will break, just that the design internally was that close to Glock (which prompted Glock's lawsuit for S&W stealing their intellectual property and using it in the Sigma pistol)
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Posted 27 November 2011 - 10:47 PM

View PostThalion, on 27 November 2011 - 11:00 PM, said:

I was never aware of any aftermarket parts for the Sigma series pistols. That doesn't mean they don't exist, just that I never came across any.

I don't think PW was trying to suggest the firing pin will break, just that the design internally was that close to Glock (which prompted Glock's lawsuit for S&W stealing their intellectual property and using it in the Sigma pistol)

I figured as much on the trigger, but have seen several topics online about lightening and smoothing the trigger out.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 09:09 AM

Probably a basic buff job. Smoothing out the internal contact surfaces to reduce friction. Works on most guns.
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