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Posted 17 October 2011 - 08:58 PM

Hey, I always gotta throw the 1911 in there. :D

Glocks are just a little less reliable than gravity, and available in your choice of calibers. High, capacity, simple, infinitely customizable, well known (there are literally THOUSANDS of Glock Armorers, including quite a few guys who do their own work in their garage) etc ad nauseum.

Smith and Wesson M&Ps are available in the big 3 calibers, and are similarly reliable, and ergonomically superior.

The Springfield Armory XD line has the grip safety and ergos of a 1911, with the capacity, reliability, and corrosion resistance of polymer.

CZs are rugged, durable, reliable, accurate, AND (one of my favorite features) Can be carried Condition 1, Cocked an Locked (ala 1911), so all shots can be run single action. But it takes training to hit that safety instinctively, EVERY time, without fumbling.

There are so many options, you really have to narrow down they type of gun you want to get it to a manageable number of options.

And THAT'S foregoing revolvers entirely.
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Posted 30 October 2011 - 08:09 PM

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100 yds, my point of aim was the left target, the 4 on the top center target are mine, along with a flyer in the left target, the rest are my brother's

the sights were on 200meters, that's why it's high, and apparently I need to knock the front sight to the right a bit

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 08:32 PM

Gun/ammo?
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:10 AM

mosin 91-30 with cheap russian cold war surplus, copper washed bi-metal fmj stuff.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 04:10 PM

New Mouth to feed! Ruger M77 mk2 scout. No, there is nothing wrong with the images, the rifle is made for the few of us that are in our right mind.
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 06:06 PM

Range report needed. Now.

(or as soon as realistic)
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 06:34 PM

No. Now.
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 10:24 PM

Nice. Give it up for the Scout Rifle.

I would love a CZ 527 someday.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 12:03 AM

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Well then....
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 10:27 AM

I think the Saiga 12 or the Keltec KSG would be more viable alternatives to that design.

The keltec gets 7 before mag tube swap, but is a pump action.

The saiga retains the semi-automatic capability and has detachable magazines.

That system of a mix of tube swaps/mag changes looks problematic. Under stress, I can see people trying to rotate the tube or change magazines when the correct move is to do the opposite. With the ksg or saiga, it's only one reloading procedure to train for instead of training to do one or the other.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 05:17 PM

Range Report on Ruger Gunsite Scout:
The range was 25 yards. I was shooting at a 12x18 dirty bird splattering target. I used usa 150grain fmj ammo, 20 rounds. Weather was clear, no wind and in the 60's. I used a harris bipod to help stabilize the rifle as much as it would. The rifle was still at the factory length for the stock.
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I fired the first full magazine of 10 rounds using the bi-pod. This is the first left handed model bolt rifle I own. The only other firearm that is totally left handed friendly that I have is my FNP-45 pistol. The rifle has 2.5 pound trigger. There is no take up or creep. You place your finger , squeeze and BOOM. My opinion is they did an awesome job on the trigger and it has a very good trigger job straight from the factory, It is the lightest that I own and if I remember, have ever shot. After 30+ years of shooting right handed bolts it was somewhat awkward at first manipulating the action. The bolt seemed stiff to operate and I think using my left hand to work the bolt on the left side of the rifle played a part in that. here is a pic of the first 3 shots. The center is the first fired. I went to take up the trigger and and of course with no take up I first the first shot and was surprised by it.
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I fired 6 more shots at the center and then for the 10th I aimed lower which is the low shot in the 8 ring . I need to shoot it some more because one shot is not a tell all, but I may need to adjust my rear sight just a hair to center up the shots. I also base this on the group in the center ring that is low right. That is 4 of the 9 shots in the center. It is also the tightest group.
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2nd Magazine of 10 rounds: I shot these 10 rounds from the standing as fast as I could shoot them and work the bolt. The bolt responded better this time than when i shot sitting in the chair using the bi-pod. Once again i aimed high for the 10th round and is the one in the 7 ring. On the issue with the bolt. I think I was not man handling it well enough when I was shooting sitting down. In the past I have worked the bolt on right handed rifles using my right hand. Once i stood up and was shooting faster and having to work the bolt with my left hand it seemed much better. As long as you work the bolt and don't baby it then it is fairly smooth. I am just having to relearn the skill for me the correct way!
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My part time range safety officer has the scout in the right hand model. He hangs out at the range even when he is not working because he rents the rear part of the building and has a man's mancave. It has a a/c'ed room that he reloads in and the rest is garage like cause he has a garage door to get in. He had his with him and he has put a leupold scope on his. He is all about the rifle and the trigger it has and I know he has some other guns with light weight triggers. I did not think to ask him to compare the trigger with some other brand/ model.
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Now for the bad. For me I only found one issue with the rifle in the short amount of time I had to shoot it today- The magazine. Its a two part issue. First is the loading the mag. I did not read the manual to see what it says but you have to push the follower down and load from the front. It is hard to snap the round through the feed lips because of the how tight they are. Loading from the front is kind of awkward and having to push the follower down and is not real fast. The 2nd part is that the magazine has some play in the front when it is inserted into the mag well. The famous hole that the ruger mini 14 has in the front of the mag is on the back of this mag and on a quick inspection I did not see a pin in the mag well that goes there. It seems that the mag locks in by the mag release which by the way is a good size and works like an ak mag release. I did not attempt to see if I could make the mag fall out as if it became entangled on something since the rifle is new. I happened to visit rugers website today and they are coming out with a 10 5 and 3 round polymer mags for the rifle. I just hope they are cheaper than their metal counterparts which are around 50 dollars. That much for a 10 round mag is another issue.

Oh I had to come back to this part as I just remembered that the recoil seemed to be more that when I shoot my other 308 rifles, and I have a few cause I prefer 308 over 223. The rifle is lighter than my other 308's it seems. My others include a socom II , a full size M1A and a DSA 58. 308 FTW. I could shoot my socom all day if I could afford the ammo and not have any issues but my shoulder seemed to feel it a little . I am writing this 12 hours later and i do not have any soreness now but it seems to me that with the rifle you get alittle more of the recoil. My range officer though after I commented to him about it, said he did not notice. SO with that i would say more shooting is needed and right now I would attribute it to shooting sitting down and possibly not being in the best supported shooting stance/ position
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Conclusion: I only shot 20 rounds through the rifle today due to time. I had some other stuff to shoot, see pic. The rifle is AWESOME. The only other downfall is deciding on how I want to set it up and the cost to do so LOL. I am leaning towards a Warne RAMP mount http://warnescopemou...cts/ramp-mount/ , a variable power scope preferably that is a red dot and a small holographic. I am leaning away from a bi-pod . Since I first saw the ramp mount , I have a few rifles that i would like to have a ramp mount for each and get both short and long range with it but of course that comes back to money to do so. Last, I also started a rifle log for the scout. I think most logs are more for long range sniper type rifles. This is the first one I have ever done and after I started I realized that it might also be helpful for any reloading that I do for the rifle.

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 09:33 PM

Rifle season opens Saturday...time to go Japanese on some white tail with my type99
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Posted 16 November 2011 - 06:44 PM

Any luck and I'll be off Sunday (like I'm supposed to be), same day my gun range is hosting their next CCW class. Now I just gotta drag my ass out of bed before 7am. It'll be worth it though.

Deer rifle season around here opened last month, and Central NC season last weekend. Now I just gotta pick a day and go try and kill one.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 07:03 PM

Our deer season's already come and gone.
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Posted 16 November 2011 - 07:38 PM

our archery season just ended, rifle starts the monday after thanksgiving.
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