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#3211 User is offline   The Hobbit 

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Posted 10 November 2010 - 01:42 PM

View PostThalion, on 06 October 2010 - 10:11 AM, said:

As for the shotgun inside the house? You really do need to aim it like PW said. It's got merit, but in many smaller houses the halls, doorways, etc. are too small to effectively clear the house with a shotgun. My house, for example, has a few good areas for a shotgun but the east half is a death trap if you're trying to enter/exit a room to clear that house. It's just too long to work the corners well. If there was no legal issues like NFA, my ideal home defense gun for my house would be a semi-auto pistol caliber carbine in SBR flavor. Something like an Uzi or TDI Kriss with the original short barrel design. The pistol round is for noise indoors, and the smaller platform would be more useful in the narrow hallway.

That said, based on what I own my primary HD gun is a Springfield XD with the shotgun getting a secondary "I know where the guy is, he's not in the tight corner area, and I need to lay down heavy fire" type role. A shotgun is a valuable tool to be sure, but there are plenty of limitations and it's only really good in its niche.

not to bring back a month old discussion, but for tight corners in a house and use of a shotty for HD. I plan on getting and having a Mossberg 500 pistol grip with a short barrel (with in legal length and purchased not sawn off). Makes for a Shorter weapon and I dont see how hip firing would be a detriment compared to having it shouldered. As long as you know how the recoil will affect the muzzle and how to control the muzzle rise.

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This Winter in between semesters I plan on trying my hand at wood burning and making a design on the stock of my AK. Something classy I would love to put in my family crest or something that relates to my family into the stock of the AK. I Then plan on Staining or Clear Coating all the wood on it to protect it and make it a little classy. Thoughts?

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Posted 10 November 2010 - 02:29 PM

View PostThe Hobbit, on 10 November 2010 - 02:42 PM, said:

not to bring back a month old discussion, but for tight corners in a house and use of a shotty for HD. I plan on getting and having a Mossberg 500 pistol grip with a short barrel (with in legal length and purchased not sawn off). Makes for a Shorter weapon and I dont see how hip firing would be a detriment compared to having it shouldered. As long as you know how the recoil will affect the muzzle and how to control the muzzle rise.


It can work, but it's not my preference.

I assume you're talking about something like this (stock image found with search engine, not mine)

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Aside from a limited role of a breeching gun (where you have the shotgun to breech the door and a carbine for actual combat/situation once inside), I'm not sure that these shotguns are all that great. They're still too long for effective handgun fighting skills, and they lack a stock for supported shooting.

The recoil would be awful for fast followup shots when a stocked version would not be.

More of an opinion than a science. I'll take my handgun or shotgun (or carbine) with a stock instead.

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Also on another note,
This Winter in between semesters I plan on trying my hand at wood burning and making a design on the stock of my AK. Something classy I would love to put in my family crest or something that relates to my family into the stock of the AK. I Then plan on Staining or Clear Coating all the wood on it to protect it and make it a little classy. Thoughts?


I might consider starting with better quality wooden furniture instead of using that wooden furniture, but it's an interesting idea and would certainly make it unique.

If you are OK with that wood, then go for it.
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 03:34 PM

View PostThalion, on 10 November 2010 - 05:29 PM, said:

View PostThe Hobbit, on 10 November 2010 - 02:42 PM, said:

not to bring back a month old discussion, but for tight corners in a house and use of a shotty for HD. I plan on getting and having a Mossberg 500 pistol grip with a short barrel (with in legal length and purchased not sawn off). Makes for a Shorter weapon and I dont see how hip firing would be a detriment compared to having it shouldered. As long as you know how the recoil will affect the muzzle and how to control the muzzle rise.


It can work, but it's not my preference.

I assume you're talking about something like this (stock image found with search engine, not mine)

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Aside from a limited role of a breeching gun (where you have the shotgun to breech the door and a carbine for actual combat/situation once inside), I'm not sure that these shotguns are all that great. They're still too long for effective handgun fighting skills, and they lack a stock for supported shooting.

The recoil would be awful for fast followup shots when a stocked version would not be.

More of an opinion than a science. I'll take my handgun or shotgun (or carbine) with a stock instead.

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Also on another note,
This Winter in between semesters I plan on trying my hand at wood burning and making a design on the stock of my AK. Something classy I would love to put in my family crest or something that relates to my family into the stock of the AK. I Then plan on Staining or Clear Coating all the wood on it to protect it and make it a little classy. Thoughts?


I might consider starting with better quality wooden furniture instead of using that wooden furniture, but it's an interesting idea and would certainly make it unique.

If you are OK with that wood, then go for it.

1. Yeah just a thought, I dont have alot of experience behind a pistol grip shotty. Either way I wouldnt mind having one for any reason.

2. Not sure what you mean by wooden furniture. You mean replace the original wood on it? Personally I am happy with the quality of the wood on there just want to protect it and make it a little more personal.
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 07:21 PM

1. Yeah, I'm not fond of the idea, but if it works for some, great.

2. Replacing the wood was what I was getting at. If you like that wood, then keep it. I know a lot of the WASR AKs have pretty cheap wood, and the picture doesn't show the quality of the wood that well.


Speaking of AKs, my new arrival came today :D

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Posted 10 November 2010 - 09:04 PM

FRAG you T. FRAG you.

A 47 with a straight 74 style gas block? Unique. And a Bulgarian triangle side folder. :tup: What's that muzzle device? Hard to see in the picture.
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Posted 11 November 2010 - 06:31 AM

It's a Type 84 flash hider. Nothing fancy, just gets the job done.

The gas block/front sight change really improves the balance/handling of the rifle. Well worth it.

One thing I didn't order with the build but Jim did for free anyway was his rear sight mod. That was really nice customer service, and it works rather well.

Overall, for the goal of a well balanced, small as you can get rifle without going into NFA land, this one is close to perfection, if it didn't make perfection standards.

May have to pick up some of the 20 round tanker mags for a really nice tight package when the full 30 may not be necessary.

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Posted 11 November 2010 - 01:04 PM

View PostThalion, on 10 November 2010 - 10:21 PM, said:

1. Yeah, I'm not fond of the idea, but if it works for some, great.

2. Replacing the wood was what I was getting at. If you like that wood, then keep it. I know a lot of the WASR AKs have pretty cheap wood, and the picture doesn't show the quality of the wood that well.


Speaking of AKs, my new arrival came today :D

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Well the way I look at it is if I screw up this wood well I can replace it with something nicer and have someone else rewoodburn it correctly then.
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Posted 11 November 2010 - 01:25 PM

These guys have some nice AK wood if you're ever looking.

http://ironwooddesig...site/IWDAK.html

My AK was originally from a training facility that closed down a little while back, and came with an interesting bit of carving on the stock when I got it.

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Posted 11 November 2010 - 01:44 PM

thanks for the link, I may have to look into a set.
interesting design in that for sure.
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Posted 12 November 2010 - 11:50 PM

Had some fun today, took a friend out shooting, her first time shooting a pistol. Ended up shooting about 180 rounds of 9mm in a Ruger P95DC. Got to work on her aim, as the shots are either 2' too high or low before and after the target at 25 yards.

Also got to use about 160 rounds of 7.62x54R through a 1939 Mosin Nagant.

Going to stock up on some more ammo and go out again sometime next year at a friends and learn Black Powder Rifles, making the lead shot, patches, and all.
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Posted 13 November 2010 - 08:28 PM

Taking someone new shooting is always fun. Been a while since I did that.

Of course, I can't think of anyone new I could take shooting. Everyone I actually communicate with in person is either a coworker I want to avoid being around, plays paintball and we don't talk much off the field/forums, or owns their own guns and shoots.

Of course, getting a lot of people with guns together can be fun too...
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Posted 13 November 2010 - 10:33 PM

So, .30-06 or .308?
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Posted 13 November 2010 - 11:03 PM

both good calibers.
I think black friday I will brave the hordes to see if I can get a good deer rifle. either 30-06 or .308
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Posted 13 November 2010 - 11:09 PM

Well, last Sunday, I got the opportunity to fire my friends 30.06 and my .308 in the same day. I like the way my .308 shot better, though, I still need to get the scope dialed in. I have hunted with iron sights for so long, the using the scope is weird to me lol.


Now, I promised these along time ago, but my digital camera broke on me. So sorry for the cell phone pic.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 07:52 AM

View PostPistolWhipped, on 14 November 2010 - 12:33 AM, said:

So, .30-06 or .308?


I shot a Browning Bar Mark II the other day with the boss on the muzzle. It was 30-06. The boss really makes a difference with the recoil. I have a Browning A-bolt and I know if I shot the same amount with it, my shoulder hates me for a day. The Bar is not mine. I sighted it in for a customer at 100 yrds.

So what about the 2?
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