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A Note On First Guns Performance isn't everything Rate Topic: ***** 2 Votes

#31 User is offline   Wrzesinski 

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 03:21 PM

GREAT POST! AND AS THEY SAY....ITS NOT THE SIZE OF YOUR GUN...ITS HOW YOU USE IT...
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Posted 16 August 2008 - 01:03 AM

as long as the gun fires everthing comes down to the player and sometimes the paint.
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Posted 19 August 2008 - 08:16 PM

Here, Here! the first time i played(god it seems so long ago) i used a brass eagle i uh "liberated" from a friends closet. Hard as a flat tire to pump and only went about 40 feet but i still seemed to get one of my friends(Pro-carbine user)out. so yeah its all in how you use it.
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Posted 29 August 2008 - 10:57 AM

I remember when I first played....ah...crappy K-Mart stuff.
It was all plastic. I think I only got 5 people out in the 6+ hours we played.
Then I got my beautiful MR1. :(
Now I want a pump. lol.
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Posted 29 August 2008 - 11:46 AM

View PostLord of sayde, on May 17 2008, 06:27 AM, said:

well i should have read this when i bought my 98, i like it....i mean it shoots but i dont like how its balanced or it feels, should gone A-5 or SP1, but ah well.

anyways im happy now since i ordered my SP1 and got my $150 discount on an SP8....lol (ordered my SP1 and they sent an SP8), lov how it looks and feels, nicely balanced and fairly light feeling.

wow lucky you!
somebody at that store doesnt know their markers.

this was a great post, very useful and definitely going to help newer players.
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Posted 11 October 2008 - 07:54 AM

Thanks man! Nice write up!
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Posted 15 October 2008 - 06:51 PM

View PostMarauder_Pilot, on Apr 20 2008, 01:05 PM, said:

I see a lot of posts, both here and in the VS subforum, about what marker is better given a few choices. However, performance shouldn't be the primary factor in buying your first gun. Or second or third or whatever, but this is far more prevalent to first-time buyers.

Keep this in mind: 90% of us will never play this sport in a competitive capacity beyond small local tournies. 9.9% of us will compete in a semi-competitive capacity-maybe your team picks up a few sponsors, goes out of state/province/country/whatever for a few tournies. 0.1% of us will actually compete in a truly professional capacity. That mean, for the other 90-99.9% of us, we don't need to have the top of the line, because we're not playing against that!

Second, your performance has a LOT more due to individual skill then your gear. I'd consider myself a slightly above-average player: I've been playing a while, but not in a hugely competitive manner. (The odd local tourny, but D-Day 2008 will be the first time I've ever gone any real distance for a game, and it's not competitive). Using my old Tippmanns, and even the Brass Eagle I started with, I've wiped the floor with people showing up with the latest and greatest gear, be it a kid with a shiny new DM and Dye clothes or a shiny new milsim Tippmann and Marauders. Using my 'Borg or any of my assorted Palmers guns, I've gotten wiped by some random kid with a beaten old Spyder or Tippmann. All the gear in the world can't make up for you being a crappy shot or not knowing how to use cover or whatnot. Gear helps, but a bad player is going to be a bad player no matter what he uses.

Third, paintball is, for everybody, for one reason: fun. I don't play because I feel obligated, I don't play because someone plays me, I play because I love the game. And you're going to have a lot more fun if you're playing with a gun you enjoy using. Don't go and post 'What's better, (X) or (Y)?', and buy the one more people vote for. Go out to your local field or proshop, try out X and Y and pick whatever one you enjoy playing with more. Yes, enjoyment is directly related to performance for the most part. Does that mean a better gun is always more fun to use? No. I've got my '06 Cyborg, which is generally regarded as one of the best high-end markers ever built. And yet I still love picking up a milsim gun and playing with it sometimes. Or grabbing one of my Palmers guns. I dropped $500 on what is functionally a $150 gun because I loved the look and feel of the gun (Now, granted, it's a $150 gun with $500 of custom work done on it, but that's beside the point.)

My point is, don't buy guns because some random people on a forum tells you to. I mean, chances are, I'll never meet more then a handful of you, and the handful I do meet I'll probably just run into at a scenario game. We're an incredibly diverse group, and what I like playing with isn't necessarily what you'll like. I can't count how many posts I've seen in the B/S/T forums saying 'I bought this gun, and it's really nice, but it's just not my style', causes by people buying based solely on internet recommendations.

Screw the opinions! Well, not completely. Consider them, but make your choice based on a gun you like playing with. If you would rather play with a milsimmed A-5 then a spacegun, then go nuts! Who cares if the spacegun is a functionally superior marker, it's just a game. Games are meant to be fun, and it's a lot more fun to play with something you use because you like the feel rather then you use just because it's supposed to be high-performance.

Well done on the post

with that said

U used quite a lot of Statistics. Heres one for you my man

90% of all Statistics are made-up or false. Don't use statistics unless they are real or from a source that is reliable(not many but we try)

After that nice post.
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Posted 15 October 2008 - 08:14 PM

OK, everyone, repeat after me:

The gun does not make the player- the player makes the gun.
The gun DOES NOT make the player- THE PLAYER MAKES THE GUN.

Great player+ decent gun= Great player
Bad player + great gun= Bad player

See how that works? Buy what works for you, what feels good- what you can carry, point, aim, and shoot well. What you can repair, maintain, and upgrade easily. A $1,500 gun is useless if you can't use it well or fix it if it breaks.

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Posted 06 December 2008 - 02:16 PM

meh .. after the first two sentences i loose interest ... the moral of the story is ....

buy an expensive gun and you can be the best player in the world ..... lol .... or something like that


:P ... speaking of which .. i have a couple of high ends for sale .... oooh, what a coinkidink ... LOLOL :P .. pm me if you too want to be an awesome player .. haha j/k

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 12:12 PM

View Postkook, on Apr 20 2008, 04:27 PM, said:

Good write up. No one should feel obligated to get a new gun because its the shiniest thing on the market. I consider my self to be a fairly good player with my PMR yet a friend I play with a guy who completely owned and bunkered a guy with a dm7 with his 98 in a 1v1.


Just goes to show its the player not the gun.



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Posted 22 September 2009 - 06:13 AM

First thing most players should do is watch "Dynasty Dysected" and practice the snap shooting drills they preach, using whatever gear they've borrowed or rented.

Next, a player should buy a really good mask (Profiler, Grill, JT Spectra/Flex/Proflex etc).

Finally, with a bit of play experience the player should look at a solid, reliable marker instead of a high-strung, thoroughbred electro.
Pump, inline-blowback semi or Classic Automag would be my "no-brainer" suggestions.

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 02:30 PM

i have this to say about your topic marauder, you not only preached a paintball lesson but also one to live life by. go for what makes you happy and price is not everything. i would much rather have a nissan 280zx than a ferrari 430, its not as good performance wise or cost as much but why do i need my car to top 180mph? and unless it were free i'll never have one, then i'd sell it : P and buy my nissan and a house, daughters college money and more cars
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 08:04 PM

I'm 43 years old. I've been playing paintball since it was invented. We started out with crappy guns and shop goggles. Over the years I've own alot of guns from high end to junk. About 7-8 years ago I went back to low end blow-backs just because I like the primitive feel. I like the heavy, black, loud, caveman stuff.

I use a bone stock BT-4 Combat. Not everybody that buys a low end blow-back dumps alot of money into them. People that don't know me will say,"You'll grow out of that gun someday and want a high-end electro". lol. I just grin and say,"yea, you're probably right". lol.

Just shoot what makes the game fun for YOU! If a high end electro is your thing that's great. If you use a gun with so much furniture on it you need wheels on it to move it that's fine too. lol

I've never seen anyone rule the woods because of what gun they use.

Oh, and yea I call it a GUN not a marker, deal with it. lol
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 10:15 PM

You tell 'em Dvl.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:16 PM

View Postcjottawa, on 22 September 2009 - 09:13 AM, said:

Finally, with a bit of play experience the player should look at a solid, reliable marker instead of a high-strung, thoroughbred electro.
Pump, inline-blowback semi or Classic Automag would be my "no-brainer" suggestions.


Man, I disagree with you to an extent. I agree that a player shouldn't go out and buy the "thoroughbred electro", because they think that it will make them a better player. Having said that, I don't think that there is anything wrong with a informed, and knowledgeable player going out and buying a "thoroughbred electro", if it compliments their playing style, and they enjoy the marker. Remember, paintball is about what's fun, if a player really enjoy's his electro then there wasn't a reason for him not to buy it in the first place. You might personally enjoy a pump, or an inline-blowback more than an high-tec electro, and that's perfectly fine, but it really boils down to personal experience, and prefrence.
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