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guns and players does the player make the gun or gun make the player Rate Topic: ***** 1 Votes

#1 User is offline   tippmann addict 

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 06:47 AM

this past weekend my team and i played at a field with some speedballers. i think 1 or 2 where actually good but the others just had equipment. they had the lastest etek ego and shooting like 28 bps. but we could still take them and we had 98 pros and like the a-5 and x7. we did good but in my opinion the player makes the gun and if a good player has a bad gun he can still work w it and get some kills. but i don't think that having a good gun will make you good. you can get some paint flying but thats it. let me know what you think on this. let me know if you think that the gun makes the player or the player makes the gun. i only have a 98 custom pro, its not like the etek ego, but u love it its super accurate and light weight. and i do good with it. so let me know your thoughts. thanks
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Posted 25 March 2008 - 06:54 AM

I was once told by a pro pool player, "Learn to play using the hall's cues. They may be warped and badly weighted but if you can play a good game with them you'll be ready for anything when you buy a good stick."

The same philosophy applies to paintball. Expensive gear is worthless if you don't have skills.
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Posted 25 March 2008 - 07:17 AM

If I had something like a SAW or a M4, I would be better off than if I had a pistol or an older gun.

But If I had no training, I wouldn't really be a match for the person w/ the pistol who has 2+ years of it.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 08:11 AM

The way I see it, the player makes the gun. I know of a person who went out during a big game with nothing but grenades and a Tiberius pistol and still ended up taking out lots of people. Unless the objective is to put some paint out for cover fire, it doesn't do much good to shoot 15bps let along 28bps if none of the shots are hitting anything. The way me and my friends describe it is like this: the gun is an extension of the person. If the person is good then the gun is good.
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Posted 25 March 2008 - 08:16 AM

The player makes the gun. Easy... so easy... Now give me a harder question.
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Posted 25 March 2008 - 01:31 PM

Since this is in the Sabre thread, I have to say that we make the gun fit the player. I can run around with a pistol or with my Delta Elite, and still work with it. Its just a matter of adapting. Puz pretty much summed up the whole topic with his one post. If you're playing speedball, you dont want an Iron Horse or Double Troubles strapped to your body, and if you're playing woodsball you dont really need a marker that can shoot 28 bps out of a single barrel. These are just basics of overkill. Ive heard many times of pumpers wiping the floor with teams that use guns with every attachment (even the kitchen sink). Skill is something that is learned, and since I have yet to see a gun that has injection tubes to feed you mental and physical ability-boosting goodies(while this is surprising), it still has to be done the old fashioned way.
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Posted 25 March 2008 - 04:52 PM

The player makes the gun. The gun fits the player. The players make the game. The game fits the sport, and the sport makes the players.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 05:18 PM

i pity the fool whgo says the gun makes the player. he would die in a fiery pit.

but the player makes the gun indefinitly, like everyone says. i say that i have a 98, and people say, well, you must suck. but by the end of the day, their welts usually prove otherwise.
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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:26 PM

Well obviously the player makes the gun. An unskilled player with a top of the line gun will be beat by an experienced player with a rental. What you have to look out for is the seasoned player with a superior gun.
While there is nothing wrong with learning on lesser quality equipment, I'd have to say that most people's skills will improve much faster if they could afford to start out with a good high quality marker.
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Posted 26 March 2008 - 09:09 AM

The player definitely makes the gun. I think it's really good for someone who is just starting out to learn on a gun that isn't so great. It teaches you to rely on skill instead of your gun. After you've been playing for a while though, it's nice to upgrade. You should only upgrade when your skill outgrows your current setup. So basically, if your gun is limiting your ability(This doesn't happen too often)/skill, and having a better gun would allow you to utilize 100% of your game, then yes, it's time to upgrade.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 04:01 PM

You have to have knowledge and skill to be good, but good equipment does help you bring your skill to its peak.
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 06:07 PM

I honestly laugh at anyone who said the gun makes the player.
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 06:21 PM

View PostPuzuma, on Mar 25 2008, 07:54 AM, said:

I was once told by a pro pool player, "Learn to play using the hall's cues. They may be warped and badly weighted but if you can play a good game with them you'll be ready for anything when you buy a good stick."

The same philosophy applies to paintball. Expensive gear is worthless if you don't have skills.

You took the words out of my mouth on that one. ;)
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Posted 04 May 2008 - 11:01 AM

its a combonation of the guys experience and ability to work with the marker he has that makes a good player, if you give a guy that likes playing with a pump and give him a full auto gun, you ain going to get better resualts
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Posted 04 May 2008 - 11:04 AM

I'm just as good with my pump as with my DP. Nice equipment helps, but only so much.
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