[blackrain]

LINK:
http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/diy-tec...html#post328429

In this time of elections and tight money, I thought I would reintroduce this it the paintball market. Now for everyone who doesn't know, this is not my idea. Way back when in paintball, a company called KVA existed. They put out a few items such as The Refillable pineapple grenade and refillable playmore mine. Now there have been a few companies who have run with the refillable mine idea. So here is a link for all to see. If you become a millionare with this idea, please remember me lol. These are basically design for small fields and where there are honest players who will pick these up after they are fragged and return them to you. Not really designed for large or big games, so scenario players that answers your question. These can be filled several times over. Howmany, I'm not sure. Last time I used one at 8oz,I got about 50 fills. The picture does not reflect the final product. For field owners and private fields, these are great rentals
Rental grenades you ask, yes exactly what I said RENTAL:

All day fills plus rental $5.00
Let the customer do the filling.

Easy and cheap:
1/2 cup washable tempera paint
5 cups water
blend
solution is ready. Fill the rest of gallon with water. Your like at $2.50 to make fill, first rental pays for it all the rest is profit.
Later,
Blackrain:)

This post has been edited by blackrain: 27 February 2008 - 10:00 AM

[S.T.A.R.S XO. Short]

I would also recommend attaching a big long ORANGE streamer to the grenade so it is easy to find AND it is more noticable when thrown and the arc can be traced and opponents will have a better chance of seeing and realizing when they have been hit.

[blackrain]

Like I said it's not a completed product picture. I'll post that soon.
Later,
Blackrain:)

[DVLCHLD]

I've been refilling my grenades for a while and it really saves money. I also put an 8" orange ribbon on them to make them easier to find at the end of the game. I also pick up all the other empty Big Boys I find on the field. I use the Thick-It recipe Blackrain suggested in another thread with a few slight modifications and it makes great smooth paint that doesn't settle or mildew. Thanks Blackrain.

This post has been edited by DVLCHLD: 27 February 2008 - 10:36 PM

[blackrain]

Glad you liked the recipe. Not to sure how these will work with thickener. Might plug the one way check valve. For this I would recommend the recpie I posted or maybe some P&D paint. You want this to flow in smooth. Otherwise you really have to blend it up real good to avoid any type of lumps that may form.
Later,
Blackrain:)

[CertifiedPaintballer]

The bad thing about refillable grenades is that you can't really use them in big scenarios, or you won't be refilling them anymore...lol. (You will lose them )

[DVLCHLD]

Actually ALL grenades are refillable. lol. I can't wait for D-Day. I bet that's a Big Boy garden ready for the picking. lol

[dogpound92]

sounds cool, i wish i cou;ld see the pics though, the links are broken, ive been lookin for somthin liek this for a while

[blackrain]

Here you go dogpound:
I made this for those of you that want your monies worth. This is an old Idea with a modern day twist. KVA were the creators of the refillable paint grenade. Only they used a red cap and a plug at the end that sent a spray of paint. They also used some thread protector around the body so if the nade took off it could be recovered. I'll add thread protector tomorrow. Please donot ask for my supplier of check valves and syringes. He asked for me to keep it private. Enjoy.

Supplies needed:

Gorilla glue
IV one way check valve
5in 3/8OD x 1/4ID x 1/16 wall-Laytex Tubing
Cotter pin with ring
Modified 3/8 washer drilled to 31/64
Syringe for filling

IV one way check valve:


I dipped mine in water first.This will make the glue swell when it starts to bond. Smear it on the check valve. Do not get any in the hole.

Slide it in the Tubing:

First I wet the tubing at the end with a little drop of water. Then I slid in the check valve to the end of the shank edge (quit thinking dirty:ROTFL:). Then with the excess that came out of the tubing end, I smeared it along the bottom of tubing.

Let it dry:

Gorilla glue will swell and cause a foaming action, this is ok. It means that it is bonding. This is great glue,it's water proof as well.

Now That it's dry:

I put a zip tie on the end. Why I don't know,maybe just over cautious. That's just me. If it bonds correctly you don't have to worry. Then I put a zip tie around the tube itself. Not to tight,just enough for it to have a little friction.

Tie on the washer:

This is what the zip tie around the tube is for. I just hold onto the cotter pin,so no worry about tying it off. Tie some nice strong string around the zip tie and washer. I would recommed drilling a whole thru the washer. In this case I didn't have to. I used some very heavy duty thread that is used in sewing military gear.

Now let's fill the grenade bladder:

Clamp off with hemostats. Screw on the syringe and start filling. I used about 6 syringe fills. Big note on filling. After the fill is in,don't let go of the syringe plunger. The check valve is still open and will force the water back into syringe. This is fine with just water,but not with paint.

All filled up and ready to throw:


Recommendation for fill:
For 8oz of water, I would use about 10 paint balls mixed in. It's really up to you. Have fun with these. You can use tags and tie them on so you know they are yours. The string holds the washer,so it can be reused. Hold onto your cotter pin. How many times these can be filled,I'm not sure. Last time I used one,I got 50 fills. I plan on introducing these at a local field. I'll probably sell them at $5 and the .25-.50 cents a refill:). It keeps the kids happy. Enjoy and improve.
Later,
Blackrain:D

[DVLCHLD]

Since you can just fill them from the trigger end I don't understand why you use the check valves.?

This post has been edited by DVLCHLD: 04 March 2008 - 07:09 PM

[blackrain]

Well the syringe locks in place. No mess when filling. The trigger is already set along with the clamp. The luer lock to me saves alot of time when filling. No reclamping or miss fires lol.
Later,
Blackrain:)

[DVLCHLD]

blackrain, on Mar 5 2008, 10:42 AM, said:

Well the syringe locks in place. No mess when filling. The trigger is already set along with the clamp. The luer lock to me saves alot of time when filling. No reclamping or miss fires lol.
Later,
Blackrain:)

Yea, after I posted that I realized how much easier it would be to use the check valves.