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#31 User is offline   Schloob 

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Posted 07 December 2007 - 08:32 PM

View PostMolokai, on Dec 7 2007, 06:26 PM, said:

View PostSchloob, on Dec 7 2007, 05:01 PM, said:

View PostMURPH, on Dec 7 2007, 03:57 PM, said:

Just checking to see if i got this straight. My team has played in the sppl for two years now. Every member of the team as it stands right now has played at least 1 full season and competed in at least 2 or more major sppl events. We also took third place at one of the qualifiers in 2007.....Does this mean we now have to play in the elite division, or are we still in masters divison. None of our team has ever played pro or semi pro and no one has anymore then 6 years of paintball experience, no big sponsers. Just checking so we can order our id cards with the right info on them.

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What team did you play for? As it stands right now if you placed in the top 3 or higher in the 07 season then you would be in the Elite division for 08. Why you ask? Because the level of play in 07 was very high. So if you finished in the top 3 I would think you've got a pretty good team. In order for the divisions to work we have to move people as they get better otherwise they will just stay in the same division and you will have the same team winning the same events every year; which we already have. So, once again, to constantly keep the level of play at a higher level this is how is needs to be.

chaos, to answer your question there will be winners in all three divisions, if teams show up to play in them. Once you are in a divison you are in it for the entire year with the one exception that Acara mentioned and that is for the ONE change to have to move down if you over estimated you Teams skill level. For example, Team Schloob has never played in the SPPL but we rock in our neck of the woods so we think the Rookie division is too easy and choose to play in the Masters division. Unfortunately, once we get there and play in a qualifier Team Schloob soon realizes that there are a lot of other teams out there much better than us right now and we need a lot more work. In that case I will allow them to drop down to the Rookie divison. They have to buy new player cards for that division though.



Ok now I am confused? You buy a card as an individual. So if you fall into the spical rule and do get to drop, as a team, why would you have to buy a new card. Wont you still be an individaul rookie till the next year? Or does your individaul rank change with each game?



The player classification is there just to help players determine where they fit in. But a guy who has never heard of the SPPL until 08 can buy a Elite card if he wants too. But when he shows up at an event to play everyone else on his team better have Elite cards too if he is planning on playing in an Elite division. Now, let's say everyone else on his team has a masters card then he can play for the masters team.(Refer to the team classification-) since a team competing in a masters division can have two elite players on their roster. So as long as he is one of only two elite players on that team.

Now let's look at this from the other way. We have this masters team, with too Elite players on our roster but we are short 3 players for example and I can't find any masters to play. I could ask individuals with Rookie cards to play on my masters team for that event. However, if those two rookie players keep playing on the masters team after that one event they must buy a masters card if they are going to play in that division at more than one event. The same can be said of a masters player filling in on an Elite team.

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 05:01 PM

this question is more for the I.D system then the devision but will we be required to now pay for the cards, the leagues fee per game then the field fee?....because thats a fair chunk of change from a team. Now I know that other leagues cost way more but I have my team focused on this style because its affordable and its easier to talk the parents into allowing use to enter if it doesn't cost so much.

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 05:23 PM

View Posthalfro, on Dec 8 2007, 05:01 PM, said:

this question is more for the I.D system then the devision but will we be required to now pay for the cards, the leagues fee per game then the field fee?....because thats a fair chunk of change from a team. Now I know that other leagues cost way more but I have my team focused on this style because its affordable and its easier to talk the parents into allowing use to enter if it doesn't cost so much.


Yes, you will need to buy an ID card for $25 before your first event. If you don't get it before and wait until the event to do it, the cost is $35. The fees will no longer be split in to league and field fees. You will just pay one amount to the SPPL. So basically, the only change is that you are now required to buy an ID card. that you can use for several years or until you have to move up. The cards will be indentical to say a Costco or Sams club card. They will be nice quality and well worth the money. Besides, without the cards and a tracking system for the players we can't have divisions which means the play won't be equitable and each team won't have an equal chance of winning.
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Posted 08 December 2007 - 06:07 PM

ok...which is correct?
You need to buy:
Field fee (250$)
Sppl fee (250$)
and cards (25$)

or you need to buy
Field fee
cards

??

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 06:45 PM

View Posthalfro, on Dec 8 2007, 07:07 PM, said:

ok...which is correct?
You need to buy:
Field fee (250$)
Sppl fee (250$)
and cards (25$)

or you need to buy
Field fee
cards

??


Niether,

There will be the @25 fee for your player ID. This helps the league determine what Division you and your team will compete in so everyone has a fairer chance of winning within their Division.

And then the SPPL Registration fee for each Qualifier you compete in. Paid to the SPPL, not the field.

Hope that helps answers your question?

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 12:06 AM

So now we no longer pay $250 to the field on game day? Do we now need to pay the whole $500 during the spot reservation process or is it still split up?
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 08:54 AM

So would the entire $875 that it's going to cost to register my team be due in advance to hold the spot or at the field? If in advance, how far?



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Posted 09 December 2007 - 09:41 AM

View Postbeaker, on Dec 9 2007, 08:54 AM, said:

So would the entire $875 that it's going to cost to register my team be due in advance to hold the spot or at the field? If in advance, how far?



Each player is responsible to get their own card. You can look at it the way your if you want. But essentially, yes all that needs to be paid prior to the event. You can wait to buy you id card at the event but it will cost $35 instead of $25. You can pay the event fees anytime prior to the event. If you make special arrangements in advance with me we could take payments the day of the event.
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 02:38 PM

View Postbeaker, on Dec 9 2007, 08:54 AM, said:

So would the entire $875 that it's going to cost to register my team be due in advance to hold the spot or at the field? If in advance, how far?

Dang inflation! :dry:

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Posted 10 December 2007 - 02:22 PM

Schloob, I think what people are confused about here (and something I've been waiting to ask) is, with the addition of the ID Card fee, how much is the team entry fee going to be this year? Overall, the cost to enter an SPPL Qualifier was a total of $500 per team per Qualifier. Is that team fee going to being reduced at all to offset the cost of the ID card?

What I suspect is, each member of the team will have to purchase their own ID card meaning it costs the team a total of $150-$375. After that, I would suspect there will be a TEAM entry fee of $250 per qualifier. This means that the total cost to a team that goes to one qualifier would be $400-$625 (6-15 players).

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Posted 10 December 2007 - 06:57 PM

View PostThirdI, on Dec 10 2007, 02:22 PM, said:

Schloob, I think what people are confused about here (and something I've been waiting to ask) is, with the addition of the ID Card fee, how much is the team entry fee going to be this year? Overall, the cost to enter an SPPL Qualifier was a total of $500 per team per Qualifier. Is that team fee going to being reduced at all to offset the cost of the ID card?

What I suspect is, each member of the team will have to purchase their own ID card meaning it costs the team a total of $150-$375. After that, I would suspect there will be a TEAM entry fee of $250 per qualifier. This means that the total cost to a team that goes to one qualifier would be $400-$625 (6-15 players).


I think you guys might be making it harder than it needs to be. So I will try to make it simpler. All players need an ID card at $25 before an event or $35 the day of the event. All teams must also pay the SPPL registration fee. You don't get your cards as part of your SPPL Registration fee; they are a totally seperate fee/thing.
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Posted 10 December 2007 - 09:34 PM

how much is the registration fee this year? Is it still $250 or does it now include the previous reg fee + field fee to equal $500?

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 09:56 PM

He has not said anything about the price per qualifier changing (as far as I have seen atleast) so I believe the cost of $500 per team will not change or else he would have said something and more than likely made a stickied thread about it by now. The ID card is a seperate fee. If you (as a player not as a team) change your ranking next year, you will be required to buy a new ID card next year. HOWEVER, if you are a Masters player or an Elite player, you will never have to buy a new ID unless you change divisions. For example, If I were an Elite player, I wound have to buy an ID card once, and never have to ever again since I cannot become a rookie, or I play for 5 years and its been 6 years since I competed in a pro level speedball tourney and my team never made to 3 in an SPPL event. That is just one scenario, but you get the idea if you read the rules. Read them carefully, there are no hidden meanings or key phrases, its as simple as simple can be. There is a saying in my line of work... "It is, what it is"
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 01:07 AM

Actually, Jayson posted in one of the other threads today that it is $500/team for Qualifier registration.
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 09:07 AM

OK, thanks Third-I.

There you have it. Sorry if I seemed like a dink in that last post, but its kind of annoying reading the same questions over and over just worded differently.
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