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Posted 29 August 2007 - 04:10 PM

From the European Patent office, here's the ego8.
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So what is basically happening is that the air is used to spin a fan, which generates electricity to power the electro magnets to cycle the bolt back and forth with tremendous speed, while air is still used to propell the ball. It will be extremely fast and adjustable, and may be the defining point in paintball design.



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Posted 29 August 2007 - 04:12 PM

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What speeds are we looking at here?

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 04:25 PM

Well solenoids can cycle hundreds of times per second, with minimal dwell, but this has a bolt that has to be moved that has more mass than a noid pin, but it should still be vastly quicker than current markers. I'm making an educated guess, so don't quote me, It's just that I don't think Planet eclipse will be decreasing performance.
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 04:26 PM

So the air from the airline will push a turbine or fan which generates electricity, and as it passes that I suppose moves into the valve. Then the electricity is used to activate electromagnets and move the bolt forward, at the same time opening the valve? That's what I understood from it, and if it works properly, it sounds promising. Just don't put it next to a credit card while firing... :laugh:.

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 04:33 PM

View PostZ3R0, on Aug 29 2007, 05:26 PM, said:

So the air from the airline will push a turbine or fan which generates electricity, and as it passes that I suppose moves into the valve. Then the electricity is used to activate electromagnets and move the bolt forward, at the same time opening the valve? That's what I understood from it, and if it works properly, it sounds promising. Just don't put it next to a credit card while firing... :laugh: .

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 04:38 PM

I don't see this happening...

They may have patented it, but I don't think they will be producing it next year. If they do, awesome!
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 04:39 PM

View PostBuckfrenzy, on Aug 29 2007, 05:38 PM, said:

I don't see this happening...

They may have patented it, but I don't think they will be producing it next year. If they do, awesome!

Why not, They've pushed the ego platform to it's limits?
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 07:29 PM

Sorry but i think this is not going to be the 08 or 09 ego. I think they are going to keep on cutting the current model. I cant see this be functional without going back to the size of a shoebox shocker or larger. I think they will tinker with the design for a few years then release it around 2010 at the soonest
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 07:31 PM

This seems like one of those things that sounds like a good idea but will end up causing problems when put into field testing. Def a revolutionary idea though.
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 07:51 PM

View PostShadowlord, on Aug 29 2007, 08:29 PM, said:

Sorry but i think this is not going to be the 08 or 09 ego. I think they are going to keep on cutting the current model. I cant see this be functional without going back to the size of a shoebox shocker or larger. I think they will tinker with the design for a few years then release it around 2010 at the soonest

Why not, It's basically a giant solenoid? I mean, what can you improve on with the egos now? Shave off half a gram? The Sl-74 is basically two tubes.
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 07:54 PM

really I think that it would be really bulky at first and thats not what players want
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 07:57 PM

Yay! More pointless upgrades to get people to spend their money.

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 08:16 PM

Man, you guys hate my posts. I go cry. :( Think of it this way. The dwell would be absolutely minimal, allowing a lower tension setting on your loaders and allowing you to use brittle paint. It would also be fairly simple. An electromagnet is just wire wrapped in a circular fashion with an electrical current flowing through it. Also, the bolt is extremely simple, and one is a rotary system. It would also be able to be extremely adjustable. Battery life wouldn't be an issue,as it is charged by airflow. While we're on the subject of air, it would also be very efficient, as post dynamo, all the air has to do is propel the ball. It also might be lighter, due to the fact that it is a single tube marker. I mean, It's all bolt. Come on, let's show a little optimism for a completely new concept. :)
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 08:29 PM

The only problem I really see with this design is how the bolt will have energy while it isn't firing. Think about it, air won't be moving past the turbine once the airlines and valves etc. are all filled, meaning there is no electricity generated to cycle the bolt. So it's going to need an internal battery of some sort to store some energy. So there's an internal battery, a miniature turbine with all of the necessary parts to have it generate electricity, internal airlines (or an open channel for air), electric wiring from the turbine to the battery to the wires near the bolt, a valve, and the bolt. Not very many parts, but it's going to need some thought before it's going to work.

Also, will the air still go through the regulator? Or will the foregrip actually house the turbine and electricity generating parts (and some wires), with the air coming through this? Putting the turbine before the regulator means much more pressure pushing the turbine and more energy produced, but then again, even the regulated pressure should be able to turn the turbine. Hopefully enough to cycle the bolt.

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 06:57 AM

Interesting, I mean, the first electros were large and bulky, but once this technology gets going it is going to be crazy.

The only problem is getting a hopper to keep up with this.
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