[left handed]

Hmmm, I'd like a Fusion for my speedball marker.

[heisman01]

the regular fusions do good i like the cuts on this its nice to see a real change in the look of a gun

[jmsiona]

very sexy gun

[Prodigy]

G4, on Aug 23 2007, 06:15 PM, said:

cheezpoof, on Aug 23 2007, 03:29 PM, said:

so i heard about the f8 and i heard about how i has a pm7 ish froud and and ego in the back so i gotta see the gun

So I heard about the F8, apparently it is similar to a PM7 in the front and an Ego in the back. I have to see this gun!

HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AWESOME! How did you know that's what he meant. I read it the first time and I was like

Meh, the F8 is a fusion. Not a fan of em personally.

[Jackson]

Shadowlord, on Aug 24 2007, 11:14 AM, said:

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It is the same operational design as any Super Spyder (Timmy, Ego, etc.) on the market.

Wrong The Fusion is not a poppet valve marker like a "super spyder". The Fusion is a FASOR design. A spring returns the valve to the rear position

No, it really is a poppet valve. It doesn't work like a spyder with the blowback, though. Like how autocockers are poppet valves, yet release no blowback. All a poppet valve means is a valve with a plunger like part that seals it off. The plunger thing (for lack of a better word) is the poppet. There are poppet based regulators like the Palmers Stabilizer, same basic plunger part to seal.

It really is a super spyder, like Egos. Stacked tube poppet valve marker. In the Spyder, spring forward, air return. Fusion: ram forward, spring return. Ego: ram forward and return. Does being set up like a Spyder making it inferior? No.

To see the different valves, check here (56K death): http://www.zdspb.com...animations.html All the Hammer/valve based ones are poppets.

This post has been edited by Jackson: 31 August 2007 - 10:01 PM

[Chaos]

Pirate, on Aug 25 2007, 10:24 PM, said:

Hmm. I'm not sure if I like the milling in the front.
But I can get over that. I'm going to try and sell my Fusion7 and get an 8.
Or just get an 8, and keep the 7. Years later that 7 might be worth something, since it's an original.

There are no "07" Fusions. There are the original Fusions V1 and V2, and the F8 is the actual name of the next version. The "F" stand for Fusion, but the marker is called the F8. The back block is milled more, making it a true half block, grip frames and bodies are different. Internals are the same as a V2 Fusion. Except the bolt is shorter. Performance is the same except they added dwell settings to the board which are controled through two dip switches making a total of 6 of em. They also shaved the weight down from 2.5lbs to 1.89lbs. They eliminated the LPR, which is pretty much useless on the V2 anyway. Oh yeah, and they put new grips on them. That about sums up the changes.

They are also coming out with a more "normal" version of the Threshy (or so my sources say). It will have a different name and do not have many details and I cannot really say anymore at this time anyway. I can tell you they only made 500 Thresholds because the milling on them is so complex their CNC machines could only make 7 bodies a day.

[French]

where can i get a trigger like that i want to put on like that , to put on my Hybrid fusion

[slinkyaroo]

Honestly - to me - it looks like something that if a Timmy and a NXT shocker got merged.

A stacked shocker.


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