[Sheriff Matt]

I just thought I would start a discussion thread for those of us who choose to use a pistol as a primary. I don't know how many there are on the forums here but it would be interesting to find out.

Anyway, last week was kind of a bummer because we had a nice big game going and my overlord started leaking. I thought it would be an easy fix but...was not so instead of sitting out for the day I decided to go with my old backup marker(my sonix)...It was a sad day to have to leave my overlord all by its lonesome. Oh well, it should be back up and going by this weekend.

[Red1]

This past Saturday, I used my PTXtreme with an inverted 16oz tank with an Overlord and a T9 as backups. I love being able to crawl into little spaces where no one expects a guy my size (6' 0" 165 lbs.) to fit. I can also move faster and it's exponentially cheaper to play.

[DaggerBurn]

I've recently gotten into doing this. mostly for the compact size aiding speed and locations i can get into quickly.
i've got two ptextremes being modified for co2 tanks and a zeus that i'm probably going ot sell to a friend for his sidearm.

[Sheriff Matt]

How easy is it to modify the ptextreme for CA...and how much does it cost?

This post has been edited by Sheriff Matt: 07 May 2007 - 09:53 AM

[DaggerBurn]

Sheriff Matt, on May 7 2007, 12:53 PM, said:

How easy is it to modify the ptextreme for CA...and how much does it cost?

its as simple as a macro line kit and a duck bill asa total cost about 20$ after shipping

[Steed]

NOt even that much, Tap a spent 12 gram with standard threading for a steel line and slap on a Bottom Line.

[DaggerBurn]

Armory, on May 7 2007, 01:01 PM, said:

NOt even that much, Tap a spent 12 gram with standard threading for a steel line and slap on a Bottom Line.

steel line macro line - you have to buy it unless you have spare parts sitting around.

you don't need to tap into a 12 gram. all you have to do is remove the 1/8"npt plug from infront of the trigger and install the air line then leave an empty 12 gram in to act as an expansion chamber.

i had to buy a duckbill because the only bottomline asa's i had were the offset spyder holes not inline holes.

[Sheriff Matt]

Armory, on May 7 2007, 10:01 AM, said:

NOt even that much, Tap a spent 12 gram with standard threading for a steel line and slap on a Bottom Line.

For some reason that doesn't sound like it would work too well. It seems like the walls of a 12 gram would be too thing to get a good thread going. I would probably much rather just buy a dummy 12 gram for 25 bucks.

It seems like the PT Extreme is pretty easy to convert to CA though. I wish my OVERLORD was that easy.

This post has been edited by Sheriff Matt: 07 May 2007 - 10:22 AM

[DaggerBurn]

just for fun

[Sheriff Matt]

DaggerBurn, on May 7 2007, 10:34 AM, said:

just for fun

haha that's pretty good. I like that one.

[Steed]

Actually the 12 gram thing works great, I'd do it to my pistol but its a Zeus design so doesn't really work that great with just a slotted window.

[Sheriff Matt]

Armory, on May 7 2007, 10:57 AM, said:

Actually the 12 gram thing works great, I'd do it to my pistol but its a Zeus design so doesn't really work that great with just a slotted window.

That's one of the problems I have with the overlord as well. It'd be nice if it had a dropout changer that sealed properly and also had more of a closed bolt design. The only other problem I have with it besides those is the feed clip. It'd be nice if it didn't have all the holes in it and if the spring loader nub/slot wasn't located on the top but on the side like the zeus design. My ideal marker would be an overlord with a closed bolt, dropout changer, and a zeus designed feed clip that was modified for quick loading.

I don't know if such a pistol exists that functions as well in reality as it does in theory. The PT Extreme kind of comes close but still falls short.

[Steed]

Are you talking sealed bolt or closed bolt? Sealed bolts are more common in the Zeus while no existant in the 32* line. Most of the pistols (stacked tubes) have similar mounting for clips. My WSP uses Zeus and the Clips from my Delta, which are the same just the Delta clips are a tad lighter, only lock in the rear and don't have the quick change cap, which is why I don't use extra clips. Don't really need them with that quick cap.

[Sheriff Matt]

Armory, on May 7 2007, 11:13 AM, said:

Are you talking sealed bolt or closed bolt? Sealed bolts are more common in the Zeus while no existant in the 32* line. Most of the pistols (stacked tubes) have similar mounting for clips. My WSP uses Zeus and the Clips from my Delta, which are the same just the Delta clips are a tad lighter, only lock in the rear and don't have the quick change cap, which is why I don't use extra clips. Don't really need them with that quick cap.

oops, my bad, I meant sealed bolt. Not closed bolt. The problem I have with the quick cap is that it takes too long to pull it off, push back the spring, fill up and then push it back it. My preference is to drill a hole in the back of the clip just forward of the resting position of the spring/pusher which allows you to just dump your 10 rnd tube in that way. It shaves a couple of seconds off reloading times.

[Steed]

Best thing to do would be to make something similar to what Phantoms and pumps use... But the Quick Cap is better then the stock ones, it atleast is always attached and simple to line up, stock caps you have to yank out and hold on too.