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#1 User is offline   Ethrealwolf 

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 10:09 PM

DO you think specialisation helps? For example, take someone who only ever plays broadsword, as opposed to someone who splits their time among say, broadsword and saber. Which would you rather have on your team and why?

(Yes, I'm a forum noob. Not a to paintslinging. I'm just curious to see what everyone thinks)
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 01:58 AM

thats pretty much how I play a mix of both I have been a front man sneaking in and laying paint on a bunker til the elimination and I've also sprayed bunkers so that my guys can move in for the kill whatever it takes to win the game.

So yes I prefer guys that are well equipted to handle more than one area of play.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 12:47 PM

Personally i would take the better player.Just because a person only plays one position it doesnt meen that there better at the psoition or that there not as good as other position.If a player is good they can play any position easily and r able to handle more situations where if the players r new it would be better to put them in one position until they get the hang of things.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 01:49 PM

I play both Sabre and Broadsword, and i think i would rather have a sabre. If you need some pne to fill in for a dagger you want a sabre over a broadsword wouldn't you?
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 02:04 PM

View Postnewach, on Apr 17 2007, 03:49 PM, said:

I play both Sabre and Broadsword, and i think i would rather have a sabre. If you need some pne to fill in for a dagger you want a sabre over a broadsword wouldn't you?


Yea but that again is the job so to say for a sabre to fill in on all fronts of the team I chose broadsword as my main position because I'm not the smallest guy and ever since the army I loved being the guy carrying the big gun (can't afford the hammer yet) and love knowing that if my guys need help I'm the one that gets the call for fire support and with either my Ion or my A5 I can turn bunkers very nice shades of well this seasons color at the home field seems to be green. I think the owner hated my orange paint jobs last season. :dodgy:
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 02:30 PM

If you actually see whats a sabre purpose is, they are suppose to cover the other positions, so if i had a choice of filling i would tend to pick maybe an extra sabre since they could go to dagger if i need them or stay back for maybe some broadsword time
i mix up between sabre, broadsword, and commander depending on where and who i play
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 05:48 PM

Well, to us, all players need to play all "positions", as the positions are just recommendations and fun to talk about. But in reality, you need to do what the situation dictates. We do split up into 3 teams (recon, assault and sniper), but all members must be capable of laying down heavy support, hiding and setting an ambush, reporting movement, etc.
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Posted 19 April 2007 - 07:45 AM

View Postnewach, on Apr 17 2007, 01:49 PM, said:

I play both Sabre and Broadsword, and i think i would rather have a sabre. If you need some pne to fill in for a dagger you want a sabre over a broadsword wouldn't you?



I don't think that the question is: "Which would you rather have: a broadsword or a sabre?" I think the question is: "Would you rather have a specialist or a jack of all trades?"

Personally, I would rather have the specialist. My reasons are that the specialist has a better knowledge and skill level at the position that I want him at. Jack of all trades are good for replacements but inferior to the specialist. Someone that has outfitted himself and trained tactically for a certain position will be more effective.

But as always, that is MY opinon. I'm sure someone will flame me for it.......... :wacko:

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Posted 19 April 2007 - 12:24 PM

View PostLoveMyMagMoreThanYou, on Apr 19 2007, 07:45 AM, said:

I don't think that the question is: "Which would you rather have: a broadsword or a sabre?" I think the question is: "Would you rather have a specialist or a jack of all trades?"


yep, that's what I should have said. heh.
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Posted 19 April 2007 - 01:26 PM

View PostLoveMyMagMoreThanYou, on Apr 19 2007, 08:45 AM, said:

View Postnewach, on Apr 17 2007, 01:49 PM, said:

I play both Sabre and Broadsword, and i think i would rather have a sabre. If you need some pne to fill in for a dagger you want a sabre over a broadsword wouldn't you?



I don't think that the question is: "Which would you rather have: a broadsword or a sabre?" I think the question is: "Would you rather have a specialist or a jack of all trades?"

Personally, I would rather have the specialist. My reasons are that the specialist has a better knowledge and skill level at the position that I want him at. Jack of all trades are good for replacements but inferior to the specialist. Someone that has outfitted himself and trained tactically for a certain position will be more effective.

But as always, that is MY opinon. I'm sure someone will flame me for it.......... :rolleyes:

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I was just using sabre vs broadsword as an example
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Posted 19 April 2007 - 02:19 PM

I play Saber because I'm expected to do a little bit of everything. I've never been a specialist at anything, nevermind paintball. I've always been able to do everything with varying levels of capability. I'm very adaptable and take full advantage of these attributes when I'm on the field.

But not everyone is like me. Instead of being fairly skilled at all things some people are very good at one thing and one thing only. That's the trick, though. I don't believe I will be as good at a single position as someone who only ever plays in that one position. It's the price you pay for splitting your skills amongst everything.

It's not really a matter of which would you prefer as how many of each are you going to need. Generally you have a few specialists for each position and a few jack-of-all-trade players. That way if, say, all your Broadswords are eliminated you have people who know how to do the job that can take their place. While they won't be as skilled as the eliminated Broadswords they will be more skilled than, say, a specialist Dagger.

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Posted 19 April 2007 - 04:24 PM

I wasn't trying to put down sabres. What I was trying to say is this: for a broadsword's role it would be best to send a broadsword. A sabre is a good choice if you don't have a broadsword available. You could even send a dagger if necessary. The resulting effectiveness of assigning people out of their specialty is less than sending someone with the proper gear and mindset. The same could be said about sending a broadsword to do a daggers job. It would be better to send a sabre than a broadsword, but it would always be better to send a dagger. I think that you need to have them all. Sabres can't sustain the broadsword role as long as the broadsword specialist can. Broadswords can't get small like a dagger can. I think that a force consisting of all the disciplines is more effective than a force made up entirely of one or another.

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 01:15 PM

i dont believe in specialization because it only works when there are lots of people and resourses.
my teamates can do everything and so can i. this is so that if one of us happens to get taken out another can take that place and we dont lose as much effectiveness as when there is only one broadsword or one dager ect.
however outside the field we are specialized because im the weapons tech and when things break i fix them becuase most of my friends dont trust themselves to do it. so there u have it be able to adapt on the field but if one person is better at something use it to ur advantage but dont realy on it.
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Posted 20 April 2007 - 02:49 PM

my team is basically 3 sabres and a broadsword. Loosetrigger, Jerad, is basically our best at filling in as a dagger type player and decent as a broadsword. Cytreen, Matt, is great at filling in as a sniper type player. And I am a Commander that plays as a sabre but can fill in as a broadsword really well and sometimes a dagger. Our last player, PainKiller Jane is pretty much just a broadsword, but we'll break her of that habit sooner or later.

Personally I like sabres the best. A sabre can do it all, he/she may not be perfect at anything but they're very good at everything. A jack of all trades so to speak, just as they're meant to be. Hammer and Anti-tank personnel are really the only specialized positions that I find necessary. No one can lay as much paint as a hammer. Anti-tank players are pretty much like a hammer that carries a dagger gun setup as well as a cannon. It's pretty hard to fill in for one of those positions so they're just naturally specialized.
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Posted 20 April 2007 - 07:04 PM

View PostRavenlord, on Apr 20 2007, 01:15 PM, said:

i dont believe in specialization because it only works when there are lots of people and resourses.
my teamates can do everything and so can i. this is so that if one of us happens to get taken out another can take that place and we dont lose as much effectiveness as when there is only one broadsword or one dager ect.
however outside the field we are specialized because im the weapons tech and when things break i fix them becuase most of my friends dont trust themselves to do it. so there u have it be able to adapt on the field but if one person is better at something use it to ur advantage but dont realy on it.



I KNEW someone was going to say this.............. :blink: :wacko:

Just because someone outfits themselves for a particular role doesn't mean that on the field they can say, "No, I won't do that because I am _________." <-- fill in the blank. If you read my post closely, it says it is more effective to send a dagger to do a dagger job, a broadsword to do a broadsword job, a sabre to do a sabre job. Will there be occasions to send a broadsword to do a dagger job? Yes. Will you most likely wish you had sent a dagger? Yes. Will you always feel that way? No.

Man you people are narrowly focused.......

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