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Poll: Co2 or Hpa/Nitro (126 member(s) have cast votes)

Co2 or Hpa/Nitro

  1. Co2 (18 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  2. Hpa/Nitro (100 votes [79.37%])

    Percentage of vote: 79.37%

  3. doesnt matter (8 votes [6.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.35%

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#1 User is offline   tippmansniper 

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 10:34 AM

I dont know if this would be in the right place or not but...... Co2 or Nitro/Hpa? I have a 98c but i dont think that would make a difference.
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Posted 13 April 2007 - 12:01 AM

CO2 because of cost.

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 12:07 AM

I would go with Co2 just because your running a tippy 98.
there were disigned to run on it. they seem to run better on Co, any way..
Find an Anti siphon vavle so you dont suck any liquid and you will be good to go.... ( if you are running remote or a horizontel tank)

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 04:42 AM

Once you go HPA, ya' never go back.

But yeah, I have very little expirience with 98c's and have never tried Co2 on one. You might as well invest in an HPA tank in case you upgrade anyway, but if you plan on using Co2, antisyphon is a must like ronin explained.
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Posted 13 April 2007 - 04:47 AM

If you can afford it, HPA. It should be a little more consistent. But, CO2 is cheaper, and you get more shots out of a tank of the same size (more shots per volume).

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 04:48 AM

hpa is a much better power source more consistent cleaner and just overall better.
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Post icon  Posted 13 April 2007 - 04:56 AM

ok guys not to get off track but..................... about how much does hpa cost? :question: :question: Thanx for the replies and votes....keep them comin
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Posted 13 April 2007 - 10:06 AM

View Posttippmansniper, on Apr 13 2007, 04:56 AM, said:

ok guys not to get off track but..................... about how much does hpa cost? :question: :question: Thanx for the replies and votes....keep them comin
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I asuming you mean fills so i would say it all depends on were you live but any were from .75 cents to $1.50 per thousand psi.

and if you go to a BIG game or scenerio it usually a flat fee for air all weekend around $10 for a weekend.

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 11:31 AM

HPA could be much cheaper than CO2 because the person selling it isn't buying anything except the compressor. With CO2, you have to buy the CO2 (it's a liquid). At my field, they are about the same cost.

I voted HPA. It really is better.

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 12:01 PM

View PostPaint Marine, on Apr 13 2007, 11:31 AM, said:

HPA could be much cheaper than CO2 because the person selling it isn't buying anything except the compressor. With CO2, you have to buy the CO2 (it's a liquid). At my field, they are about the same cost.

I voted HPA. It really is better.


HPA. Cheaper in the long run, more consistent and cleaner for your gun.


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Posted 13 April 2007 - 12:07 PM

HPA since the temp doesn't affect it badly like it does CO2.

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 12:16 PM

I say hpa because like a few of these guys said it isn't affected much by the temperature and you get more consistency out of your shoots I have a friend with a Ion and nitro and when we went out and it was snowing his gun didnít have a problem and every one else running co2 did.
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Posted 13 April 2007 - 12:32 PM

Once you get a good hpa system your set, but if you get a crappy aluminum tank dont even bother if you want hpa get someting that youll have for a while the price for 2 aluminum tanks is more than some 5 yr wrapped tanks and they are better. HPA fills are alot less than co2 but the tanks are alot more it all kinda evens out.

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 12:37 PM

View Posttippmansniper, on Apr 11 2007, 01:34 PM, said:

I dont know if this would be in the right place or not but...... Co2 or Nitro/Hpa? I have a 98c but i dont think that would make a difference.
Thanx :D


I voted "doesn't matter" but I want to qualify that statement.

CO2 tanks are cheap. Even a small CO2 tank holds a large amout of gas: I get 80-shots per ounce of CO2 on my marker, an autococking design. (Blazer)

What this means is you can buy a small tank, have it filled and expect a whole day of play with it. A 20oz. CO2 tank gives me about 1600 shots. I usually run a 3.5oz for indoor games and a 9oz outdoor where fills are farther apart. Tanks 2-inches or less in diameter don't need hydro-testing so that's a big plus too.

As a sniper, you don't need to shoot a lot and your shots will be farther apart so freezing up and shootdown aren't as important to you as they might be to a Sabre or Broadsword.

With an anti-siphon tube and a CO2 regulator like the Palmer Stabilizer, CO2, when you don't shoot too fast, is as consistent as HPA. (read the bold part again... too many people don't get that concept)

The bad news... you really can't shoot CO2 as fast as HPA. Your tank will chill, just like an aerosol can when you spray it continuously, and your pressure will drop. You also cool down the marker which may or may not affect it - more specifically, the o-rings.

In colder weather, if you play outdoors, you'll get less shots per ounce of CO2 than you will in hot weather. This is, however, predictable and can be managed.

HPA has the advantage of being a "hook it up and forget about it" gas. It doesn't chill like CO2 does and it isn't overly sensitive to differences in temperature.

The bad part about HPA is tanks are much more expensive than CO2 and you don't get nearly the shot count for a given tank size. Either you live with less shots (kind of defeats the point of being able to shoot fast, huh?) or you buy a huge HPA tank.

I used to have a 68/4500 HPA tank. I sold it and went double-reg'd, anti-siphoned CO2.

Oh yeah: depending on your marker, you may be stuck with HPA: electro-pneumatics don't take well to CO2.

EDIT: if your CO2 tank is vertical, either on marker or with a remote, do NOT use an anti-siphon tube!
You want the CO2 pickup at the highest point in the tank. If it's vertical, the valve is already the highest point. If it's horizontal, the anti-siphon should be installed so it's on the top wall of your tank, where it's not dipped in liquid CO2.

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 12:59 PM

Only the cool kids roll with HPA, so that's another reason to get it. ;p
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