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Posted 20 November 2008 - 08:51 PM

I'm not sure if the DP F7 is notorious for breaking paint or anything, but I'm wondering if there is a bolt out there for the marker that is a little gentler on paint. It was pretty cold out (40*) when I was having a break problem and the paint was brittle and higher grade. My guess is that the cold got to it after being outside. But I'd still like to know about any available bolts. I haven't found any.
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Posted 20 November 2008 - 09:09 PM

I think the Violent Series F8 bolt will work in most F7's, and some of them for whatever odd reason require a little sanding of the bolt or bolt pin or something...

You might get a little more help in the PBN Dangerous Power section, there's a lot of F7 and F8 owners in there.

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 07:31 AM

I stay away from PbN. TechPB will do only because I'm registered there.
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Posted 21 November 2008 - 07:15 PM

The DP forums on pbnation are actually really helpful, the stickies have all the info on fusion upgrades. Jus tmake sure to read the stickies before, or atleast attempt to find an answer before posting.

I know of the:

Violent Series (have one coming in the mail) and
Alamo City (I think... google it)


I've actually only had chopping problem when using really low quality paint where the shells don't even feel solid. Other than that I've been fine. I'd go with the violent bolt personally because I've heard much more about it.

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 08:53 PM

I know there are aftermarket bolts but not sure about who makes them or anything else.
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 09:22 PM

what hopper u using ?

mine fusion used to break paint alot with the reloader but when i got the vlocity it never did
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 01:01 AM

I can only speak from personal experience, but the F8 bolt doesn't work in the F7.
The F8 bolt has two O-Rings on the front. When on, the bolt sticks on every shot.
With them off, if it doesn't stick anyway (because you have to sand it down a lot), it breaks paint worse because the bolt is wobbly.

Alamo City Paintball makes F7 bolts, but they're the only company I know of doing so.
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 07:46 PM

I had soooooo many problems with my Alamo City bolt in the spring/summer I will never install it again. With the warmer temps it swelled to the point that when you'd fire the marker (F8) it would get stuck in the forward position. I'd have to pull the bolt back by hand and then shoot again.

The Violent series bolt has been great so far. With the stock bolt and a reloader b2 I was breaking paint like crazy. With the violent bolt, the same hopper, same settings it ran great.

Violent Series bolt gets my vote.
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Not sure why the F7 and F8 bolts would be different. Check over at PBN in the DP section, there really is alot of good info in there.

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:49 PM

View PostSmall Block, on Nov 24 2008, 09:46 PM, said:

Not sure why the F7 and F8 bolts would be different. Check over at PBN in the DP section, there really is alot of good info in there.


I have heard of some issues, but I've also seen plenty of f7s with violent bolts in them...

I think I heard that they changed the design at one point to make them work better in F7s, I could be completely wrong though.
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Posted 25 November 2008 - 08:12 AM

I'll look around. I'm using a B2 which will feed 28bps so a slow feedrate is not my problem :wacko:.
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Posted 26 November 2008 - 09:19 AM

View PostSmall Block, on Nov 24 2008, 07:46 PM, said:

Not sure why the F7 and F8 bolts would be different.

The designs, mostly in the front, are rather different.
The F7 has the small stem, then in impact surface of the bolt. No O-Rings.
The F8 (at least the Violent bolt) is one solid body with a hole for air, and two O-Rings in the front.

Maybe it's just my Fusion (it's actually a pre-production one).
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Posted 26 November 2008 - 10:42 AM

I used to have the same problem with my old F7. Your problem is not the bolt. Halo's and Reloaders just do not work so great in the cold with a Fusion in my expeience. One thing you want to make sure of is that your eyes are absolutely clean. If you broke in the chamber, it likely got paint all over your eyes. Also, make sure there is nothing in the feed neck/bottom of the hopper or raceway that could damage the ball. A small bur could slice a paintball before it even reaches the marker. The problem with mine, however was the detents. the F7 Detents have a tendancy to stick. Clean the ball berring, spring and hole they go in. I put a VERY light coat of oil on the berring, and that seemed to help, but any dirt, paint or debris will cause them to stick, breaking the paintball as it goes by.

Also, turn your velocity down 10-20fps in cold weather, you would be amazed at how much that can help sometimes.

Hope this helps!

Also, I would stay away from aftermarker bolts, from what I have seen, the stock bolt is the better than any other bolt out there. An Eigen ram might help a lil though.
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Posted 26 November 2008 - 11:19 AM

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 01:46 PM

I think the stock bolt with a Halo/Reloader is a problem.

The stock bolt allows the ball to roll back, allowing the next ball in the feedneck to drop down some. Then when you fire, *CHOP*.

The only time, and I mean only time I had chopping issues was with the stock bolt. The whole time I used the ACP bolt (all through the winter and spring) I had no prblems. It wasn't until summer time that the ACP swelled and would stick forward. After re-installing the stock bolt I chopped all day. This was in August and at a field that I've NEVER had a paint problem with.
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