Co2 or Nitro
Posted 13 April 2007 - 01:30 PM
Furtim, Patientia, Veneratio
Posted 14 April 2007 - 05:56 AM
Posted 16 April 2007 - 11:12 AM
Posted 16 April 2007 - 12:11 PM
Every time somebody purposely overshoots someone, a dolphin is harpooned and eaten alive.
Every time somebody wipes, a family of bunnies gets run over by a Steamroller. That's why they have to reproduce so fast. Theoretically, that's how dinosaurs became extinct.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 04:47 AM
--HPA is much more consistent
--The expense comes from the cost of the tank and fills are slightly more expensive
--You get less shots with HPA but it should not matter during game if you are going to be a sniper
--Not affected by temperature or humidity
--Lower report and rarely any muzzle smoke
--Less strain on your marker
--You get more shots with CO2
--CO2 breaks down O rings quicker no matter what marker you use because of the liquid form of CO2
--With an anti-siphon tank and expansion chamber you can reduce o ring break down and improve consistency but you have just upped the cost of CO2. The chamer costs about $100 dollars, CO2 tank about $20, anti-siphon kit add another $10-20 dollars. You are in the range of an HPA tank at that point.
--Affected by temperatures no matter what you do
--Usually shoots louder and you almost always get some type of muzzle gas to show where you are
This post has been edited by wolfguard: 17 April 2007 - 04:50 AM
Posted 04 May 2007 - 07:25 PM
Posted 26 May 2007 - 10:15 AM
You say, "b/c of the liquid form of CO2." Well, I've got news for you pal: most markers are running GASEOUS CO2. Only way to guarantee liquid CO2 in the marker is a siphon tube. Sometimes you'll get spurts of liquid, but not with a decent reg you won't. And even then, o-ring degradation isn't very bad. So essentially that point is ludicrous.
And I still recommend HPA. More shot consistency, which is crucial for a "sniper" (heck, for anybody!). I run my blazer on a single stab and an HPA tank b/c of HPA's consistency no matter the weather. BUT, I still had erroneous, ignorant information.
About # of shots. With an efficient marker, you can play all day on a 68/4.5k HPA tank if you play smart. And by this I mean play outlaw. If you're playing at a commercial field it doesn't matter as much as it's usually only a few $$s more for all-day air than it is for a single fill. Thus, just get all-day air and you're set. For scenario: almost ALL vest can accomodate up to a 92ci HPA tank. That's definitely big enough to run your marker (no matter how much of a gas hog it is) for quite a while out on the scenario field between air fill-ups.
Posted 30 May 2007 - 07:57 PM
HPA is more consistent for shot to shot and a bit easier on your marker. Really, that's the only things it has going for it unless you play in cold weather.
Co2 is more widely available and can be stored longer. HPA is not as commonly available, the smaller fields just don't have it. HPA also tends to loose pressure over the course of a week or so, I've had Co2 bottles full after several months of non-use. The two systems are using the same sealing hardware, so my best guess here is that the Co2 doesn't leak because it's denser (liquid).
Much the same as filling a balloon with helium and another with water. Come back a month later, and the water balloon is full, the helium is all gone. The sealing hardware isn't perfect, and inevitably allows some space for the molecules to escape.
Subtitles aside, being that you're talking a 98c I really wouldn't worry about the extra expense of HPA. Your marker is designed from the ground up to run on Co2. I'd get an expansion chamber or a regulator if you're worried about it.
Flying straight above the steady stream of stars.
Posted 31 May 2007 - 12:53 PM
Posted 14 June 2007 - 09:00 PM
Posted 29 June 2007 - 09:48 AM
What kind of marker are you running? And are you running a reg with it?
Posted 16 July 2007 - 10:16 PM
Now that being said, I run a Low Pressure Kit and a Palmer Fatty regulator, which allows me a tremendous number of shots out of that 9oz and great shot consistency--I can knock over a soda can in controlled conditions 3/5 times at about 100' and put each on a mask just about 5/5 times, again in controlled conditions. (*Actual woodsball is anything but controlled, obviously, but still, its a great kit*)
The only real disadvantage is the shoot down as the tank cools, and in cold/humid winter conditions, the condensation on the regulator and tank tend to freeze up! However, I try to shoot at a non-spastic pace so unless the weather is just perfectly against me, its all good. I have never had a problem with the CO2 eating apart my internal O-rings, I have used the same internals for over a year on a used A5 and still get perfect service every Sunday.
Just my .02 grams of propellant, for what its worth.......
How many balls per second are you going to miss me with? --unknown baller
Do your duty, no matter what may come. --Jacques DeMolay
Posted 17 July 2007 - 12:31 AM