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#16 User is offline   gorton-guy 

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 11:01 AM

well you should have not dry fired at them but not shooting was a good call.
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 01:12 PM

View PostWarpaint, on Sep 2 2007, 11:58 AM, said:

LE does not consider paintball markers a weapon, but a dangerous toy. If you look up injury or vandalism statistics, paintball marker abuse usually falls under categories of misdemeanors. In this case, if the people were the targets, not the vehicle, some justification for assault could be proved, but a case for life and death self defense would not. None of the paintball driveby assaults in this country have been presented as more than assault in court. No one has the right to take the law into their own hands, especially when you are not defending your life or home. And what lesson comes from repeating one random act of stupidity by committing another? More likely if the offending paintballers had been shot at, they would have returned, intent on shooting more than the vehicle.

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I remember when someone tried to steal my wallet at school. I simply decked him, end of story. I just walked up, squared him in the eye, and left. Problem solved.


Yeah, that sounds tough and it may impress other kids here, but in reality, this is a poor way of solving your problem. You could have just demanded your wallet back. You could have gotten some help, apprehended the thief, and reported it, which would have prevented future crimes. But instead, you took the Hollywood drama way out, decked the guy, and lucked out. Lucked out? Yes, because the guy has so far left it at that, and you weren't caught hitting him. Schools these days don't care much about what starts violence, they just don't put up with it. Lucked out because the guy didn't get hurt. Maybe that guy will wait for you to use the bathroom one day, and while you're using a urinal, he comes up and knocks your head into the wall, or stabs you from behind. Or maybe he gets a couple of his buddies to wait with him after school one day to help him even the score with you...or someone you know.

Many of you kids need to learn that modern society has ZERO tolerance for juvenile misbehavior of any kind, regardless of how it is initiated. I and many other adults don't like that, and some of us are pushing back trying to put things back in balance, but this is the part of the post 9/11 world we live in right now. You still have the right to defend yourself, but you have to be able to demonstrate to the law that you are clearly in jeopardy, and respond only with the force necessary to protect yourself from harm. The law doesn't need you, me, or anyone else delivering justice. I know that sounds harsh, (I don't intend to sound mean or like I'm trying to put kids down...I have a few myself) but that's the reality of today's get tough with kids society, not adolescent, I've got something-to-prove, tough-talk. If things are ever going to be put back into proper perspective, we've got to keep our brains engaged when are tongues are a-waggling, and keep our hands at our sides. The weapons against fear and hysteria are common sense and reason, not bravado and rage. :P


lol, I was in an aggressive mood earlier (dirt bike crash). I thought that paintball guns were consdered weapons because our school teacher told us that anything that launches a projectile of any sort can be considered a weapon, but I guess she meant at school :unsure:

I'm a short temered guy, so I would have probably shot back, but I guess you're right about calling the police. It's the same thing as if someone rolls your house or keys your car. You get all hot and bothered about it, but I guess getting revenge won't exactly clean up your yard or fix your paintjob.

Also, I have since moved after the wallet incident, but I still remembered how angry I got when I saw that guy digging around in my bag and walk away with my wallet. I couldn't help myself, but wouldn't it have been great if I had reported him and they had caught him with my wallet?
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:33 PM

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 09:24 AM

ok i dont know what details you guys need.

But here they are

Driving in a cube van with 4 people in side- me, cousin 2 friends. we all had gats-air-paint
we decided to not use paintballs and use air
we put on our masks, stuck our heads out of the van and started to dryfire at them.
they all ran away and we had to clean up my cousins van
we dident call the police because they do nothing
the kids had masks on
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Posted 06 September 2007 - 09:14 PM

If you call the police and tell them somene is shooting at your van with paintball markers they won't respond? What city do you live in?
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Posted 07 September 2007 - 03:57 AM

View PostDVLCHLD, on Sep 7 2007, 12:14 AM, said:

If you call the police and tell them somene is shooting at your van with paintball markers they won't respond? What city do you live in?


They'll probably respond, but chances are the police won't find them. Ever.
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Posted 07 September 2007 - 04:40 AM

You could have done worse. You could have done a lot better though.

You're LUCKY a third party didn't call in a gang war.

So what if the cops might not catch them? If those idiots do it on a regular basis and there's a pile of complaints then the cops HAVE to keep looking.

Gat? I'm not even going to comment on that.
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Posted 07 September 2007 - 04:55 AM

i got warned for sumthing like this, although it was purely off of instinct, thats why i did it
it was a act of self defense, and they called it vandalizing T.T
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Post icon  Posted 07 September 2007 - 01:25 PM

some of you kids sound like ur in middle school with the way your are talking about shooting back. this isnt where the principle will just shrug it off. this is where the police would arrest both of you for unloading a weapon in public.
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Posted 08 September 2007 - 03:09 PM

Umm.. Wy is everyone under the impression that the cops wouldnt do anything.

On the news a while back there was a huge report on Paintball Driveby's and how more common they are becoming, And Yes the police take it seriously, people can get slammed for doing this, and face serious charges, I wish I had the exact charges but i remember them being very Steep. And its not just a fine and a slap on the back, Youl have a criminal record and would face jailtime if anyone was hurt in the incident.


On top of that you were in your vehicle, There was one incident were a man was shot with a paintball gun through his car window (In the Face) while moving down the road and it caused him to hit a tree. The people who were caught went to prison for a very long time...

Considering u can be charged with Assault with a Deadly weapon if you Kick someone in the face, Im sure They could ruin your life for shooting someone in the face with a paintball gun.

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Posted 08 September 2007 - 03:38 PM

In Canada the deal is a paintball marker is not a firearm unless a crime is committed with it. Drive by shootings, Shooting at vehicles are both treated as felony if a paintball marker is used. Not to mention felony assault, assault with a weapon and I think they can even charge you with owning an unregistered firearm.
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Posted 09 September 2007 - 02:17 AM

View Postspetsnaz908, on Aug 31 2007, 09:33 PM, said:

the right thing to do , would of been throwing an f bomb at their van



the right thing to do , would of been throwing an f bomb IN their van


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Posted 10 September 2007 - 04:09 AM

Yesterday. Paintball drive-by. My town. No cops.

I realize that it's wrong to shoot back, but I don't expect the cops to ever find the guys. Sorry, but it's just not happening. It's not like their DNA is in the paint fill or something.

Fact of the matter is, paintball drive-bys suck. End of story, they suck. The kids make the sport look bad and seem violent, your stuff is vandalized, you can't get revenge, and they won't be found.

It sucks, but the best thing to do is to spray down what they shot with a hose and forget about it. If you don't get mad, they won't come back.

There's so many stupid pranks these days it's not even funny. The only way to get a good laugh these days is to destroy someone's stuff. It's pathetic. I have seen people cut peoples' tires, key their cars, cut the bushes out of their yards, break windows, spray paint something of theirs, secretly drain their motorcycles of oil and watching them blow the engine, etc.

I'm putting hidden camera's up in my bushes and behind my windshield. :P
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Posted 11 September 2007 - 07:25 AM

View PostWarpaint, on Sep 2 2007, 11:58 AM, said:

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The right thing to do is to shoot paintballs back. You could call the cops, but 99% of the time people like this never get caught. On top of that, these kids would still be out there doing the same crap to people...


The right thing to do would have been to notify the police. Maybe the police would have caught up with these individuals, and maybe not, but at least there would be some record of previous mischief if they continue their misbehavior later and elsewhere. People don't get caught, because 99% (equally exaggerated statistic) of the time, no one sees anything. If you shoot back, you stand the chance of being caught or reported yourself, and then having to explain things to the police and hope they buy your story.

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...they are technically purposely shooting a weapon at you. Technically, you had the right to use deadly force (which sounds really harsh). No, I'm not saying you should have killed them of course, but they should have at least been shot with a couple of hundred paintballs to learn a valuable lesson.


LE does not consider paintball markers a weapon, but a dangerous toy. If you look up injury or vandalism statistics, paintball marker abuse usually falls under categories of misdemeanors. In this case, if the people were the targets, not the vehicle, some justification for assault could be proved, but a case for life and death self defense would not. None of the paintball driveby assaults in this country have been presented as more than assault in court. No one has the right to take the law into their own hands, especially when you are not defending your life or home. And what lesson comes from repeating one random act of stupidity by committing another? More likely if the offending paintballers had been shot at, they would have returned, intent on shooting more than the vehicle.

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I remember when someone tried to steal my wallet at school. I simply decked him, end of story. I just walked up, squared him in the eye, and left. Problem solved.


Yeah, that sounds tough and it may impress other kids here, but in reality, this is a poor way of solving your problem. You could have just demanded your wallet back. You could have gotten some help, apprehended the thief, and reported it, which would have prevented future crimes. But instead, you took the Hollywood drama way out, decked the guy, and lucked out. Lucked out? Yes, because the guy has so far left it at that, and you weren't caught hitting him. Schools these days don't care much about what starts violence, they just don't put up with it. Lucked out because the guy didn't get hurt. Maybe that guy will wait for you to use the bathroom one day, and while you're using a urinal, he comes up and knocks your head into the wall, or stabs you from behind. Or maybe he gets a couple of his buddies to wait with him after school one day to help him even the score with you...or someone you know.

Many of you kids need to learn that modern society has ZERO tolerance for juvenile misbehavior of any kind, regardless of how it is initiated. I and many other adults don't like that, and some of us are pushing back trying to put things back in balance, but this is the part of the post 9/11 world we live in right now. You still have the right to defend yourself, but you have to be able to demonstrate to the law that you are clearly in jeopardy, and respond only with the force necessary to protect yourself from harm. The law doesn't need you, me, or anyone else delivering justice. I know that sounds harsh, (I don't intend to sound mean or like I'm trying to put kids down...I have a few myself) but that's the reality of today's get tough with kids society, not adolescent, I've got something-to-prove, tough-talk. If things are ever going to be put back into proper perspective, we've got to keep our brains engaged when are tongues are a-waggling, and keep our hands at our sides. The weapons against fear and hysteria are common sense and reason, not bravado and rage. :)


Warpaint's response is dead on! When you respond to a situation by the same measure, all it does is continue the stupidity! PaintballRdye, I know that you and your friends were the victims in this and you handled the situation as you thought best, but it would have been better to drive off and cool down, or call the cops. Each and everyone of us has to remember we represent our hobby/sport, we can not act like the people who are doing stupid acts. WE MUST SET THE STANDARD! Setting the standard means that we behave better than those who antagonize us. The more acts of vandalism and unsafe behavior people like these do, the more we must show ourselves to be honorable sportsmen. People such as these will ruin our sport for everyone. There is a similar issue going on in Newark, Ohio where I work. It has been going on since January of this year! The police are still no closer to finding the people doing it, but we have to work within the system and not take matters into our own hands.
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Posted 11 September 2007 - 07:40 AM

Here is (I hope) a link to the story I referenced above.

http://www.newarkadvocate.com/apps/pbcs.dl...303/1002/NEWS17

If this did not work you can find the story on Monday's edition of the Newark Advocate which is online at www.newarkadvocate.com
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