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The end-all of Trilogy recouces Accurate info on the Trilogies Rate Topic: ***** 1 Votes

#1 User is offline   zWarlord 

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Posted 19 July 2006 - 03:06 PM

Ok. There has been so much miss information about what the trilogy can and cannot do I thought it was about time someone cleared it up. I plan on elaborating on the upgrades it is capable of accepting, and the level of customization possible please do not post on this if you simply intend to say “trilogies suck!” there is too much of that and not enough real information. I would like to have this stickied as useful information resource with accurate information.

Over view of the trilogy models:


All trilogy markers:
-Closed bolt operation
-Integrated 3-way
-RVA
-Dovetail mounting rail behind feedneck
-With HPA +/- about 7-10fps untill broken in, then about 5fps
-they are also available in SF (select fire) Models with electronic operation.

SF Info
-Capped at 18bps
-TA ramp-15bps ramp begins after 3rd trigger pull
-b ramp-18bps Pull and hold trigger is 2 balls, pull and release is 3, ramp is activated on first tigger pull, must pull trigger at a rate of 4+ balls ber second.
-full auto(NXL ramping)- 4 quick trigger pull and hold on the 4th.


Trilogy Sport: ($129.00)
-Gas through grip
-High pressure valve designed for C02 and HPA
-One piece 14” barrel
-Panel grips
-1˝ finger hinge trigger frame

Trilogy competition:
($119.00/SF$269.00)
-Inline regulator
-Wrap around grips
-Valve designed for HPA (C02 with anti-siphon)
-One piece 14” barrel
-1˝ finger hinge trigger frame-

Trilogy Tactical: ($129-134.00/SF$295.00)
-Inline regulator
-Valve designed for HPA (C02 with anti-siphon)
- Nickel aluminum bolt
-One piece 14” barrel
-1˝ finger hinge trigger frame
-Tactical shroud with three 7/8 weaver rails

Trilogy Pro: ($139.00/SF$299.00)
-Inline regulator (angled forwards)
-wrap around grips
-Delrin bolt
-2 piece barrel kit with .691 and .687 backs (made by J&J)
-Full 2 finger hinge frame

Adjustments Possible:

Inline reg: On the models that have them they are not externally adjustable. However you can adjust it as you can any other by removing the air line from the bottom of the reg. Inside is a screw that can be adjusted with a flat head screwdriver.

Trigger pull: The trigger pull can be adjusted in the same way as on any other cocker, by inserting an allen wrench into the top of the body. There is however no trigger stop, so that adjustment cant be done.

Cocking rod: The cocking rod is also like any other Autococker and can be adjusted in the normal method

3-way timing: The timing on a stock trilogy is not adjustable as the 3-way rod is solid. It is only adjustable with an additional upgrade (see below)

LPR: The LPR is not externally adjustable. As with the inline reg the LPR must be removed from the body. Looking inside the LPR is a screw to adjust the cocking pressure. In its stock condition only one other LPR is capable of being attached to a trilogy. (This can be changed with an upgrade, see below)

Upgrades:

Bolt: Any 2000+ bolt can be used

Inline Reg: any reg can be used as long as it can be set around 350psi (trilogy operating pressure)

Timing adjustment: The stock timing rod can be replaced with the TechT shaft kit. This allows the timing of the marker to be fully adjusted. This also allows for the use of after market trigger frames. (the shaft kit is not necessary on the SF models)

Trigger Frames: Any frame can be used provided that the shaft kit is installed. Some frames (almost exclusively sliding frames) require that the retaining nut holding in the valve be filed down by about a millimeter or two, else it will restrict the motin of the trigger. Also dont forget that if you upgrade to a sliding frame you will ned to reverse your ram hoses.

LPR:
With the addition of the TechT LPR adaptor nut any LPR can be attached. Palmer makes the only LPR (Rock) specificaly for the Trilogy (On the tactical the LPR must not be larger in diameter than stock, this is not usualy a problem)

Valve: The only two valves that currently exist for the trilogy are the LT valve made by palmer specifically for the trilogy, and the Merlin mq valve (this requires an E-frame and a trilogy adaptor sleeve).

Ram: there are a few rams that will definitely fit: WGP STO, KAPP Fat, Hybrid Half Pint, ANS mini ram, and Shocktech Extreme Rage. The stock ram is the same ram as is on the Pro Stock (On the tactical the ram must not bel arger in diameter than the stock , but that is not usualy a problem)

Barrels: Any cocker threaded barrel can be used on the trilogy.

E-Blading: Eclipse makes an adaptor to allow their solenoid to be attached to the marker; however Eclipse no longer makes the E-blade. The only other option available at this time is to buy the WORR Blade kit, or to buy the SF model of that marker.

Back block: Any flat fronted back block can be used

Feed neck: the feedneck is not removable from the marker; therefore replacing it is not possible. The only feedneck it is possible to attach is the Trinity T-Lock designed Specificaly for the Trilogy.

Pump modification: It is possible to convert a trilogy to a pump a kit can be purchased from http://pmpind.com/

If I have missed anything please let me know, and if you have any questions feel free to PM me and I will be more than willing to help.

NOTES:
Prices are from actionvillage
Thanks to silent_assassin17 for the SF info

This post has been edited by zWarlord: 28 January 2007 - 09:16 PM

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Posted 20 July 2006 - 09:47 AM

very, very good info....should be stickied...

thanks zWarlord :wacko:
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Posted 23 July 2006 - 06:06 PM

Thank you, i was hoping to have it stickied as a resource for anyone looking at them, but alas, not worthy of stickyness
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Posted 24 July 2006 - 07:09 AM

View PostzWarlord, on Jul 23 2006, 08:06 PM, said:

Thank you, i was hoping to have it stickied as a resource for anyone looking at them, but alas, not worthy of stickyness


In time, young padawan learner :P

Very good information. I was looking into getting a trilogy just for a backup/loaner, and this helped me figure out what I could do with it.
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Posted 24 July 2006 - 12:28 PM

Thanks this helps me a lot! I just recently bought a Trilogy Pro because I was upgrading from my newbie gun to something better. The trilogy caught my eye at the price and then that it was an autococker. PBReview said it was a good gun but looking around on here everyone said it was crap. I like the gun and this helped with upgrades I want to get for it.
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 09:29 PM

Very Very nice. Finally someone that DOESNT think trilogies suck. I agree this should be stickied. If you need any info on the e-trilogies just ask me
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Posted 06 August 2006 - 07:56 PM

Ok i thought i would post a pic of my Trilogy and a list of its stuff for pple to look at, any one else with a trilogy who wants to show it off, come right along.
-Shocktech Superfly bolt
-WGP Ergo Reg
-J&J Edge Elite Kit
-TechT shaft kit
-JCS combat stock
-Adco Hot Shot
-NcStar Weaver bipod
-JCS weaver offset
-CCM Delrin Back Block
-ANS Mini Ram
-Benchmark side drop (not in pic)

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Posted 07 August 2006 - 12:37 AM

you dont have an electro cocker, why are you using a delrin back block then? You really wont notice that much of a weight differnce. Just curious.
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 03:21 AM

Ya this did help alot thanks
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 11:03 AM

View Postreapermen, on Aug 7 2006, 03:37 AM, said:

you dont have an electro cocker, why are you using a delrin back block then? You really wont notice that much of a weight differnce. Just curious.


No its not electro, the back block is to remove as much reciprocating mass as possible. You could easily fire it one handed without having to compensate for kick of any kind. Its built for accuracy and consistency, not speed. And yes i have turned down the LPR as well.
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Posted 27 August 2006 - 09:20 PM

I should have a mod slap me for double posting, but I figure it would be more helpful where pple can see the thread, so: up UP UP

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 08:45 AM

Hi, first of all, plz sorry my rusty english, I recently bought a trilogy pro.

I want to put a red dot on it, but I don't know how, 'cause I can't find any offset rail for the trilo. (I hate the vertical feed, jajaja)

Can you give some advice of what can I do abt the rail??

thks a lot.
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 10:21 AM

Don't forget: Yes they can be converted to pump, with a lot of work, and Punisher is working on pump kits for them, but standard ones don't work

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 06:31 PM

View Posttute, on Oct 5 2006, 11:45 AM, said:

Hi, first of all, plz sorry my rusty english, I recently bought a trilogy pro.

I want to put a red dot on it, but I don't know how, 'cause I can't find any offset rail for the trilo. (I hate the vertical feed, jajaja)

Can you give some advice of what can I do abt the rail??

thks a lot.

this is what you need. It will need a little filing down of the sight rail, but its not hard, took me about 5 mins and works like a charm. If you look at the pics of mine that is what is holding my ADCO sight^ (oh they dont normaly go sideways, i just find it better for me.)
http://www.specialopspaintball.com/shop/pr...&CAT=108203

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 08:11 PM

Good work.
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