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#1 User is offline   Dracule 

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 11:29 AM

My field has an approved safety video we show to all players their first time at the field. It includes all your basic safety stuff, keep your mask on, use your BBD, etc. It also includes a demonstration of touch bunkering, since we do not allow full bunkering outside of tournaments. However, every weekend I see new players getting shot at point blank range, most of the time by other new players. Some of these are reflex shots when people don't realize each others' proximity, but many others could be avoided. I've started taking the time to ask all my players if they understand bunkering and show them how if they don't, but that's just my group out of maybe 6 we'll run. What can my field as a whole do to cut down on too-close shooting?

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 06:56 PM

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i will give up my marker only after you pry my cold rigid fingers from the trigger
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Posted 29 June 2007 - 07:24 PM

yeah this happens at our field as well. the best thing to do is stay on top of it we are fortunate enough to get there before it becomes a problem because we keep a good ratio of refs to players.We we dont use a tape but you can usually get there attention by making them set out a game for not using the appropriate method.We tell them that refs may join the games as players throughout the day to reinforce sportsmenship If neccesary(good ref/player+ fast fingers+ high end gun +close range= lesson learned) Most of the time a simple reminder, setting them out, or pulling them out ( and letting the player they just eliminated remain in) is enough to discourage that behavior.After the video take an egg and a marker then say this is the marker youll be using, this is your eyes (the egg) then blast it at close range. then say goggles on no bunkering any questions!!!Ok so the last one is something that i just came up with and havnt tried but sounds like fun and will get their attention. well you get the idea. :P
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Posted 30 June 2007 - 12:24 AM

In my experience nobody pays attention to videos that they don't expect to be entertaining. Safety videos are particularly prone to this reaction. I should know, I'm required to watch many of them which I ignore. You're better off not even bothering with the video and just explaining it to them. Point out that the penalties may include a game suspension or ejection from the field without a refund. People tend to listen better when there's the possibility of not getting their money's worth.

Anyways, all you can really do otherwise is what ironwasp said. Just stay on top of it when they're playing. But like I said, they learn faster when threatened with being pulled from a game.

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Posted 30 June 2007 - 12:47 AM

Get up in there once they get close. Justbe aware. When little kids are playing thats what I do (although most of the time we allow bunkering).
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 06:05 PM

Its my experience that even if you remind them in the middle of the game unless you stop it right before it happens every other time new players come out someone gets shot to close or someone uses a surrender and the other person turns around and shoots them in the rush. Sit em out / "kindly" reprimand them and the rest of the group will be fine for the day.

We've all played paintball enough to know when its about to happen so you just have to try to stop it the first few times right when it happens.
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 06:26 PM

I don't own a field but the field I go too we have new people bunkering other new people. Half the time there on thier own somewhere, friek out cause they hear a noise and bunker thier teamate. What they do is just take them out and give them a talking to. My guess is that it would be a little embarassing for most people to get a talking to from a complete stranger ref.

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 06:53 AM

usually they get a warning then they sit for 2 games thats about 30 mins third time they get ejected from the field
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Posted 18 July 2007 - 09:58 PM

one thing i say in my saftey speach is " rember in karma in paintball is real and very fast"

o and get off your silk pillows and do the hole saftey speach, comon it takes like 3 min to do right
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Posted 09 August 2007 - 11:30 AM

The field where I'm (about to start) reffing uses 'the forty second rule'. They notice that during safety briefings people drift off after about 40 seconds. So every forty seconds during your briefing, you either scream something, tell a joke, or dry fire a rental marker 2-3 times. Brings people right back in. Not saying that'll completely stop the problem, but it does seem to help with attention.
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Posted 09 August 2007 - 11:51 AM

View Postrightintheface, on Aug 9 2007, 02:30 PM, said:

The field where I'm (about to start) reffing uses 'the forty second rule'. They notice that during safety briefings people drift off after about 40 seconds. So every forty seconds during your briefing, you either scream something, tell a joke, or dry fire a rental marker 2-3 times. Brings people right back in. Not saying that'll completely stop the problem, but it does seem to help with attention.


Top 10 reasons why dry firing a marker is bad while giving a safety briefing.... 1 thru 10 YOUR GIVING A SAFETY BRIEFING!

dry firing a marker is one of the most unsafe practices at a paintball field. I would re think doing this. If you speak loud and keep the audience engaged they will pay attention. Telling jokes, stories, or just changing the tone of your voice (public speaking skills people) are all good ideas.
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Posted 09 August 2007 - 11:55 AM

View PostBielerga, on Aug 9 2007, 11:51 AM, said:

View Postrightintheface, on Aug 9 2007, 02:30 PM, said:

The field where I'm (about to start) reffing uses 'the forty second rule'. They notice that during safety briefings people drift off after about 40 seconds. So every forty seconds during your briefing, you either scream something, tell a joke, or dry fire a rental marker 2-3 times. Brings people right back in. Not saying that'll completely stop the problem, but it does seem to help with attention.


Top 10 reasons why dry firing a marker is bad while giving a safety briefing.... 1 thru 10 YOUR GIVING A SAFETY BRIEFING!

dry firing a marker is one of the most unsafe practices at a paintball field. I would re think doing this. If you speak loud and keep the audience engaged they will pay attention. Telling jokes, stories, or just changing the tone of your voice (public speaking skills people) are all good ideas.

I should clarify...a marker with a barrel condom secured and no hopper attached. And personally checked by the ref giving the talk.
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Posted 09 August 2007 - 01:12 PM

View Postrightintheface, on Aug 9 2007, 02:55 PM, said:

View PostBielerga, on Aug 9 2007, 11:51 AM, said:

View Postrightintheface, on Aug 9 2007, 02:30 PM, said:

The field where I'm (about to start) reffing uses 'the forty second rule'. They notice that during safety briefings people drift off after about 40 seconds. So every forty seconds during your briefing, you either scream something, tell a joke, or dry fire a rental marker 2-3 times. Brings people right back in. Not saying that'll completely stop the problem, but it does seem to help with attention.


Top 10 reasons why dry firing a marker is bad while giving a safety briefing.... 1 thru 10 YOUR GIVING A SAFETY BRIEFING!

dry firing a marker is one of the most unsafe practices at a paintball field. I would re think doing this. If you speak loud and keep the audience engaged they will pay attention. Telling jokes, stories, or just changing the tone of your voice (public speaking skills people) are all good ideas.

I should clarify...a marker with a barrel condom secured and no hopper attached. And personally checked by the ref giving the talk.


Again still, dry firing a marker is one of the most unsafe practices at a paintball field. I would re think doing this. Anything a ref does should be ok for a player to do. And dry firing is a very slippery slope.
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Posted 10 August 2007 - 08:37 AM

View PostBielerga, on Aug 9 2007, 01:12 PM, said:

View Postrightintheface, on Aug 9 2007, 02:55 PM, said:

View PostBielerga, on Aug 9 2007, 11:51 AM, said:

View Postrightintheface, on Aug 9 2007, 02:30 PM, said:

The field where I'm (about to start) reffing uses 'the forty second rule'. They notice that during safety briefings people drift off after about 40 seconds. So every forty seconds during your briefing, you either scream something, tell a joke, or dry fire a rental marker 2-3 times. Brings people right back in. Not saying that'll completely stop the problem, but it does seem to help with attention.


Top 10 reasons why dry firing a marker is bad while giving a safety briefing.... 1 thru 10 YOUR GIVING A SAFETY BRIEFING!

dry firing a marker is one of the most unsafe practices at a paintball field. I would re think doing this. If you speak loud and keep the audience engaged they will pay attention. Telling jokes, stories, or just changing the tone of your voice (public speaking skills people) are all good ideas.

I should clarify...a marker with a barrel condom secured and no hopper attached. And personally checked by the ref giving the talk.


Again still, dry firing a marker is one of the most unsafe practices at a paintball field. I would re think doing this. Anything a ref does should be ok for a player to do. And dry firing is a very slippery slope.

Excuse the potentially stupid question, but what's unsafe about dry firing in this context? I fail to see the danger.
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Posted 10 August 2007 - 08:46 AM

In most situations a player just doesn't know better, its there first time and they basicly get overloaded, as a ref its your responsibility to keep control. The bunker touch is easy to control, you can clearly see a player running to the bunker by the time he's their you should be right there calling the other guy out. You are responsible for enforcing rules and basic safety and you can't expect every player to be on the game 100%
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