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Invert Mini Is it worth it?

#1 User is offline   Suoz250rdr 

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 06:24 PM

Hey. Lately I've been considering buying an invert mini. I'm a bit nervous to make the purchase for 2 reasons. 1) Anything and everything I buy has an issue with it right out of the box. Is this likely to happen with the mini? 2) My friend recently bought a PMR. It chopped paint like no other. He says it was just the cold weather, but after its performance I am a bit sketchy to step into the speedball marker scene. I've been a tippmann A5 owner for years, and its safe to say I'm no genius at marker maintenance. Does the mini require a lot of maintenance? I'm also not sure which hopper to get. I'm looking for a hopper fast enough to keep up with the mini, but not overkill. Preferably not much more than $100. I've decided on a HPA 68/45 tank. Just out of curiosity, will the mini work with a 32 degrees remote coil w/ slide check? Those tanks can get heavy during scenario games. :panzer: I'm not planning on up grading too much. Maybe a new barrel after a few months. The field I play on is often wet. Not flooded, but damp to step on. Will this be a big problem with the mini? I have pretty small hands, so its size shouldn't be a problem. Are there any other problems mini owners often encounter with their guns?

Overall I am looking for a very reliable, easy to maintain gun. Will I get this with the Invert Mini?

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 08:31 PM

The Mini will no longer have any 'problems' out of the box. They fixed all the problems 4000 or so before mine and I bought mine with a sponsor discount for more than it costs to buy one for retail now. The problem was the paint, not the marker. Your tippman will chop more because it uses about 600psi MORE than the Mini and PMR. Plus the PMR barrel sucks. It has 1 screw for disassembly, two if you want to get a good cleaning. I've played in the rain with mine with no problems, just keep your screws tight, which you should anyway. Remotes and such are universal, but you wont have anything stabilizing your marker. The Mini is that so it being too big is the least of your worries. If your looking for a hopper, the Torque by Hard Corps maybe somthing to look at. No screws, hardly any board, and it comes in camo shells and stuff like that. There are upgrades available for the Mini, but you dont *need* any of them.
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 09:49 PM

Wowww Will...That class your taking for that Studdering problem is really working.. :laugh:

Ghost has a world of information and first hand knowledge of the mini and about any other marker out there you'll see in the field.I know that he's not had any problems with his mini,and to see some of the places he plays,and the weather conditions,you can bet the farm in Texas his word is like gold.
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 09:58 PM

Thanks for the input guys. As for the hopper, I was thinking the Odyssey Halo Belt Driven w/ Rip Drive
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 12:29 AM

Suoz25Ordr - Ghost is the fountain of all knowledge about Minis. I'd trust him. I've got the Olive Dust one and I LOVE IT!!! MY wife runs a PMR and she's never had an issue with (so I think your friend might be right). I've run about 7500 rounds thru my Mini and never had a problem. I bought my Mini as a replacement for my A5 (recent elbow surgery left me needing a lighter setup) and now my A5 has been retired! Maintence is so simple. Undo one screw, pull everything out the back, wipe it off, grease the orings and reinsert! So much easier than the calmshells!! I started out using my wife's HALO but I decided that I didn't like the balance. I'm using a VLjr right now it is perfect. THe balance is so great and I've never had a problem feeding. Of course I only use it on semi.

Either way, the Mini is a sweet marker.
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 07:58 AM

View PostSuoz250rdr, on Jan 10 2008, 09:58 PM, said:

Thanks for the input guys. As for the hopper, I was thinking the Odyssey Halo Belt Driven w/ Rip Drive

Halos were once the standard for HE hoppers, but this year, let alone the past two, have been huge for loaders. The Torque has a unique system of unjamming, though the push button operation was stolen from the Pulse in essence. It also has no screws and cleaning one is MUCH easier compared to Halos (sorry Dusty) and VLocitys. I use a VLocity so I cannot give you my personal experience of a torque however. It does look very promising since its faster than almost any loader out of the box.
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 08:23 PM

I've owned about 10 guns, including Tippmans, BKOs, Phantoms, etc. The Mini is by far the easiest to maintain. Have and olive and black one now. One screw and the three parts come out the main tube. That's it. Only issues I've had are related to user error. Hopper-wise, I have a Torque on the way in the Digi Army pattern. vLocity Jr. has been okay this last year. Personal opinion, but I've used Halos and I think they're too big for the gun.
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Posted 12 January 2008 - 09:51 AM

I've narrowed my choices of hoppers down to 2. The Halo and VLocity Jr. The torque seems nice, but I think I'd rather choose a different hopper to start with. Maybe in the future I will look into the torque. I would choose the Jr. but the constant humming of the motor putting pressure on the balls might get somewhat annoying during long woodsball games. Will the Halo make that constant humming while not being shot?

Whats your opinion on the Halo B w/rip and Vlocity Jr.?

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 12:35 PM

Halos are heavy and my friend uses one on his Mini and hes looking to trade somone for anything but it. I dont know if its the hopper or the hopper/gun combo causing his problems, but with the rumor of Halo's being too tough on Mini's detents he's not taking any chances. The constant humming isnt noticeable IMO until you put the marker to your face and in long woods games its up there the whole time. I use a VLocity. The only real reason IMO not to get a VLocity when it was just that and a Halo for the HE hopper market was that the Halo had all kinds of accessories, but the VLocity is catching up now with new chips that are easier to replace than a whole board, wheels, shells, speed feeds, etc.
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Posted 12 January 2008 - 01:12 PM

I have a wuestion:

I hear the mini's stock bolt is pretty rough on brittle paint, and has been known to break it in the chamber. is this true?
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Posted 12 January 2008 - 02:42 PM

I havnt had any chops. That were from the bolt. I've had some barrel chops from using poo paint, but that will happen with any marker. I do plan on replacing the bolt after I get new detents though, but its not high up on my to-do list.

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 04:35 PM

so is the mini paint-picky? I won't get anything more expensive that nelson hot-spots if I don't have to.
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Posted 12 January 2008 - 06:58 PM

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 07:12 PM

No, the Mini is not paint picky. I just got done testing the new set-up. I had my stock barrel (in Olive Dust) bored out to accept Freak Inserts. I shoot more than 1000 rounds using Chronic Inertia, PMI Premuim, and JT USA white box. NO CHOPS, NO BREAKS, Incredible performance. (Ghost - I promise the full review soon). Even completely stock, there were no issues with paint at all.

IMO - it's one of the best mid-range marker out there.
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Posted 12 January 2008 - 08:33 PM

the mini is so easy to clean i cleaned my friend yesterday you take a allen wrench screw the screw that hold the back cap and than pull and bam you got the hammer ,bolt everything right
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