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#1 User is offline   The Bear 

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Post icon  Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:01 PM

This marker was given to my airsmith friend to be worked on and no one seems to know what it is. I was wondering if anyone out there could ID it by sight? Sorry the photo's are bad, all I had when I visited was my phone. I'll try to get some better quality ones next time I have the chance if no one can identify it before then. There are no marking, no lettering, no etchings except for what I assume to be a serial number, no logos, nothing. The pistol grip we believe to be aftermarket. Any help would be great!

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:08 PM

It looks like a RAP4 with the mag well removed. Not sure what model. possibly an older one.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:09 PM

yeah deffinatly looks like a Crap4 marker
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:11 PM

Wow, that was fast. Thanks guys, I look into that. Were the old RAP4 markers ridiculously heavy? I think this thing beats my AT-4 in the weight department.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:18 PM

Not sure, never handled one. I was just going off of the look of the trigger guard and the fact that there are very few mag feed markers around. Especially with the cocking handle on the side. Most now have the standard top cocking handle like a real M4. But i could be wrong and all this means nothing.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:23 PM

No mags on this one, sorry the pics suck. The feed neck is directly in front of the carry handle. Vertical ASA. The internals look suspiciously like a Spyder clone.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:28 PM

My friend and I where at Paintball Authority and he found a old APG mag on the free shelf from January 2005 and a week or to later borrowed it from him and found a ad for a vector M1 made by kahr arms and auto ordnance, which are the people who made the Tommy guns. The add has a website www.tomygunpaintball.com it has two markers listed yours looks perfect like the Combat version of it except the one in the picture has the name written on the side in white I will try to scan some pics on tomorrow.
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:49 PM

That would be great Big Foot, I'm not having any luck with their website. Maybe the owner got rid of the name on the side, he's done a couple other mods to camo it up a little, so having the white letters on the side probably wasn't to his liking. I didn't see any evidence of sanding or scraping, so if he did he was good at it. I'll try to get better pictures ASAP.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:54 PM

It doesn't look like the Vector M1's I'm familiar with.
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 09:57 PM

it maybe a armotech/ariakon
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 09:58 PM

Not a Vector. Vectors have big "Vector" on the side and an integrated fake mag looking thing with an angled ASA.

It almost looks like a VM-68. The ball "fingers" clued me in along with the rotating striker lock slot. Second pic, you can see the top of the fingers by the feed neck. But it isn't a VM-68. The lower tube is flat, not rounded; this one also has a vertical ASA. But a lot of other things match up.

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Look at the locations of screws and such.

EDIT: And VMs are notorious for being very heavy.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 10:08 PM

It almost looks like a Miltec/Ariakon/Warsensor, but not quite.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 08:32 AM

Closest thing I could find to it on the poster you got me for x-mas (visual history of paintball markers) was the WG65, but I doubt that was it because that was brought out in 02.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 01:35 PM

Well here are the pics any way. There were some pretty close Ariakon pics as well.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 07:46 PM

well, its not an ariakon. It looks most like that VM-68
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