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Posted 06 April 2009 - 08:05 PM

The Protos and Dyes that you specified will not fog if you have a thermal lens that has not separated. I've been using the Switch FS for more than 3 years and I have a profiler in the mail. The reason is I am fed up with the thermal lenses separating on the proto and dye lenses. They are very similar in shape and curvature of the lens and are obviously made in the same facility. The problem lies with the outwards curvature of the main lens and the adhesive used on the foam gasket in between the lenses. This adhesive will pull away from the outer lens after about a year or less, and there is no way to stop it. Look in through your proto/dye thermal lens from the outside, and look above where you would see your eyes, the foam gasket is probably separating or already there is a gap. This gap causes the lens to effectively turn into an untreated single lens, because humid air is allowed to enter the space between the two lenses, and fog up. Also, the inside lens scratches super easily, which means that even if you use a micro fiber cloth, it will still scratch from dust on the surface; there is no good way to clean that lens, and rinsing it with water only makes the lenses separate even faster.

I'm trying the V force Profiler because of the single lenses that resist fog like other thermals, and the ability to rinse with water with no catastrophic effects. Also the option of a Photochromatic lens is very attractive.

The Spectra I have seen have not had the separating problem, partly because they appear to use a better adhesive and also because the lens is not curved out like the proto/dye lens, so the inner lens doesn't have the same tendency to pull apart.
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Posted 06 April 2009 - 10:50 PM

View Postslowerpig81, on Apr 6 2009, 10:05 PM, said:

The Protos and Dyes that you specified will not fog if you have a thermal lens that has not separated. I've been using the Switch FS for more than 3 years and I have a profiler in the mail. The reason is I am fed up with the thermal lenses separating on the proto and dye lenses. They are very similar in shape and curvature of the lens and are obviously made in the same facility. The problem lies with the outwards curvature of the main lens and the adhesive used on the foam gasket in between the lenses. This adhesive will pull away from the outer lens after about a year or less, and there is no way to stop it. Look in through your proto/dye thermal lens from the outside, and look above where you would see your eyes, the foam gasket is probably separating or already there is a gap. This gap causes the lens to effectively turn into an untreated single lens, because humid air is allowed to enter the space between the two lenses, and fog up. Also, the inside lens scratches super easily, which means that even if you use a micro fiber cloth, it will still scratch from dust on the surface; there is no good way to clean that lens, and rinsing it with water only makes the lenses separate even faster.

I'm trying the V force Profiler because of the single lenses that resist fog like other thermals, and the ability to rinse with water with no catastrophic effects. Also the option of a Photochromatic lens is very attractive.

The Spectra I have seen have not had the separating problem, partly because they appear to use a better adhesive and also because the lens is not curved out like the proto/dye lens, so the inner lens doesn't have the same tendency to pull apart.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't lenses supposed to be discarded after a year because of the punishment they take from getting hit?
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Posted 07 April 2009 - 04:06 PM

jt proflext and the carbon fiber events work good for me

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 09:05 PM

When I had a single lens mask I used to wipe antiperspirant on my face along with anti fog on the lens.
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Posted 07 April 2009 - 09:48 PM

Are you having fogging problems or condensation problems? There is a difference and most people think they are the same thing. Fogging is just that, fogging on the lens, cloudiness. You need a good thermal lens to fix that. I love my Vforce Grillz, but have used Proto FS and Empire E-vents and never had either of those fog either.

Condensation is water all over the inside of the lens, so it's like you are looking out of a fish tank. That has nothing to do with the lens, and everything to do with the foam around the lens and you sweating. To fix that, always dry the foam around the lens everytime you get off the field, and wear a thick absorbant headband/wrap. If you don't dry the foam everytime you leave the field, once it's fully soaked with sweat, it will just let the rest run right down the lens, totally blurring your vision.

I never had problems with fogging once i bought a true thermal lens. But i always had problems with condensation til i learned to wear a headband and change it out a few times a day for a new one. I wear Ban-Du's now and love em. They keep my forehead dry as can be. :angry:


View PostCiderbarrel, on Apr 7 2009, 01:50 AM, said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't lenses supposed to be discarded after a year because of the punishment they take from getting hit?

Technically, if you take a shot to the lens from 10 feet you are supposed to replace the lens immediatly. Most of us just replace them yearly cause it is the safe thing to do. Don't let it go too long, cause this is your eye sight we are talking about. I think it is worth the $30 a year to keep it safe.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 11:09 PM

View PostLegato, on Apr 7 2009, 09:48 PM, said:

View PostCiderbarrel, on Apr 7 2009, 01:50 AM, said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't lenses supposed to be discarded after a year because of the punishment they take from getting hit?
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Technically, if you take a shot to the lens from 10 feet you are supposed to replace the lens immediatly. Most of us just replace them yearly cause it is the safe thing to do. Don't let it go too long, cause this is your eye sight we are talking about. I think it is worth the $30 a year to keep it safe.



Thats a really good point everyone should think of. 30 bucks a year isn't much. Thats a case of paint or half a case of paint at some places. To keep your eyes protected and safe, 30 bucks is almost cheaper than my renters insurance that I monthly, that I probably will never need, but is it worth the risk?

As far as mask, I have the V-Force Morph w/ photochromatic lenses(They tint when the sun hits them) and its probably one of my better investments in paintball. Think is was Leg that suggested them. Plus about the V-Force morph is I can take them apart in seconds. Cleaning isn't an issue for me. not sure if the grillz are the same way. I personally like the way the grillz look though.
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Posted 19 April 2009 - 11:21 PM

Flex's are great when it comes to not fogging up. been using Proflex's for as long as i've been playing and they've never fogged in snow, rain, or heat.
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 04:34 PM

Profilers or Grillz work great! They dont fog up, they are nice and comfy, they have the wide lense, and they are easy to maintain. Go with 1 of those.


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Posted 29 April 2009 - 06:48 PM

just about anything from V-force is good stuff from what i have heard, along with the higher end JTs. I have also heard good things about the new proto mask that comes standard with the mask. Mike over at Techpb.com has a video on it go check it out if you are interested. your best bet is to try and find some at your pro shop and try them on.
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Posted 29 April 2009 - 10:35 PM

I've always used the V-Force Armor mask. The thing is easy to clean, and only fogs up because I'm way out of shape. They cost about $25, and the lenses are about $15-20, depending on your lens preferences. Anti-fog treatments are okay too, I guess...
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Posted 07 May 2009 - 07:13 PM

another vote for v force here. I have a set of Grills and wear glasses and they fit great! Never had fogging issues either. granted i live in colorado were the humidity is like -20% all year. lol
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 09:40 AM

I was actually planning on getting either a dye or grillz. Of course any camo mask works great but as long as it isn't white...
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 01:51 PM

I got my Vforce Grillz 2 years ago at a scenario and they've never fogged on me since then.
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 05:51 PM

View Posticedude, on Apr 6 2009, 01:53 AM, said:

Hi. I wont say that i'm new new to woodsball / bushball. I've been playing for some time now. The reason for my topic?
Each time when the game is getting fun and exiting, my mask fog's up. It's not just my mask.
The masks we have been using:
Dye i3 Pro
Proto Switch EL & FS
V-Force ?

I'm not trying to talk masks bad, i'm just looking for silutions to the problem. I've been using Fogtech to help with the problem. It last for a while and then it fogs on you. I also know that the woods /bushes intends to heat up.
I'm trying to get the Dye Invision fan to help with the problem, but our local stores dont have it yet.

Is there any ideas or silutions anyone could give me. What masks would work better?

Thanks


Get a thermal lens. I play in humid 95 degree weather. I spent $25 on these and it's truthfully the most valuable thing I've spent 20 bucks on in my life. Had them for two years now and haven't fogged since.
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Post icon  Posted 11 May 2009 - 09:27 PM

Ill tell ya what works great for me ....get the FANZ double fan kit ...i had these on a cheap jt mask from walmart and played in 90 degrees ...click em on for 20-30 sec..and presto... FOG GONE....WOW ...I wouldnt ever play w/o them .... period....you can get em off ebay for Around 20-23 bucks...you will never fog again...works FAN tastic....no pun intended....lol...really nice , easy mounted and very quiet...believe me..you wont be dissapointed
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