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#1 User is offline   The Hammer 

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Posted 08 September 2007 - 04:19 PM

I've been playing woodsball with a bunch of guys for over 4 years. The terrain includes pine trees, hardwoods, bushes, creeks, ponds, a broken down barn, and waist-to-shoulder high vegetation. Does anybody know of good info, esp. visual, about concealment, spotting concealed enemy, camo, movement, etc. I've got a couple of military books, but I need your help! Videos would be great...
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Posted 11 September 2007 - 06:09 PM

crouch when you move through the wast to shoulder stuff, try not to leave a trail (push the plants aside and step over instead of trampling them)
people will tend to move near the barn so set ambushes near there.
for spotting concealed enemys look for trails in the grass
dont move too much in that field because if your playing experienced players theres bound to be ambushes everywhere
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 11:26 AM

as you move around try to stay in the crouched position and only move from your waise down. it takes a little practice but you are far more difficult to spot.
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 12:03 PM

Walk heel to toe. It makes less crunching noise. Try to step around larger sticks or branches, especially the branches that are decomposing cuz they make the most noticable snap noises.

I've snuck up on my own men like that. But they knew who I was cuz I'm the only guy that has MARPAT that we play with.

Also learn to move as slow as possible. It attracts less attention. Never move while their mask lense is pointed directly to you.

Observe the "Iceman" (Reference to Top Gun) philosophy as much as possible. "Wait for them to do something stupid then nail them for it."

Remember human beings are creatures of habit. If you can wait long enough, you can find a habit to take advantage of. Sooner or later, a habit will be formed.

Habits also apply to you, learn them, break them :laugh:

Scan, listen, and use all your senses to pinpoint where you may have a "Tally Ho". (Military lingo for a fix on an enemy's position)

Remember there is a chance you will probably hear them coming before you see them. But also remember that is not always the case.

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Posted 27 September 2007 - 05:47 AM

Learn your own style at your own pace.

You can look at all the books in the world, watch all the videos in the states, but it won't matter until you practice it.

Remember too, that you aren't a real sniper/scout/recon specialist, and that any of the tactics you might read about or watch on the insructional videos might be inapplicable to paintball due to range and equipment restrictions. The sooner you come to that realization, the faster you will become a paintball player those worth to a team isn't questionable.

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Posted 27 September 2007 - 07:22 AM

I have worn 2-3 pair of heavy wool socks instead of boots in terrain I know is safe from rusty metal objects to gain an advantage. Be creative.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 09:22 AM

I agree with Reb and MSS. also learn to shoot from both the kneeling and the prone positions. be careful with the noise you make and the glare off your equipment. these are the two biggest killers of paintball snipers. and the main thing to remember is to practice, practice, and practice.
*"thats just a bush, not a sni..." *WHACK* "never mind."
*92% of the teen population would be dead if Abercrombie and Fitch said breathing wasn't cool. If you are of the 8% that would be laughin your butt off, put this in your sig.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 10:06 AM

If you go to Google, type in:


videos, sniper training


There are many books, but not too many videos. Amazon.com is a good source for books and video material, plus, they have a preview tool for many of the materials they sell. A good book for aspiring snipers to read is FM 23-10, and you can pull that down off the web in PDF by chapter. It covers every pretty much every aspect of the military sniper role. Not all of what you will read and see in video translates well to paintball sniping, but many techniques are still effective, you just have to learn what works, and what does not. Distance and accuracy are a challenge, but as with any challenge, you have to improvise to each situation and compensate for your weaknesses. Every position faces those same challenges, but are impacted to different degrees by application. Most times, the people that say it can't be done, are the ones that don't know how, or prefer the paradigm of their current existence. The world has rarely been significantly changed by those who say, "No", but by those who say, "Maybe, or if". If nothing else, learning sniper techniques will give you an advantage over other players in the field...they definitely won't hurt your game, unless you apply them inappropriately to your situation.

By that I mean that there are times when having someone in the sniper role makes practical sense, and there are times when it may only result in putting your team at a handicap from the onset of the game. For short fast games, a sniper is not practical. If both teams want to field a sniper, a workaround is for the teams to give the snipers a 5 minute headstart to get situated in the field. "If there is a will, there is a way." If your games are getting a little bland, this is one way to spice things up. For longer, scenario type games, a sniper role is much more feasible. Many scenario games also allow snipers to pre-stage. It's not as challenging or realistic as sneaking into your designated AO, but if players are willing to improvise a little and be imaginative, the sniper role can add an exciting element to the game for everyone. It's a little odd, but you may find a lot of people in the field pretending to be or emulating other military soldiers, tactics, and positions, yet whom deny or refuse the existence or practicality of a paintball sniper, because it may require a little more imagination and creativeness. Some of these same people show up with smoke, flares, IR, night vision, dressed in real military helmets, uniforms, or BDUs with insignia, clown suits, Halloween masks or animal costumes, carrying AKs, M4s, MP5s, launchers, driving around in jeeps, tanks, and halftracks, following the orders from HQ, Generals, Colonels, Majors, Lieutenants, Corporals, Commanders, Sargeants, use military tactics, hand signals, and formations, etc., etc., etc....but still have an issue with snipers? Oh, that's right...we're PLAYING a game, and paintball snipers aren't real!

So be prepared to face a lot of resentment from non-snipers. The word sniper in itself has acquired a negative connotation, as evidenced by the more PC sharpshooter or marksmen designations in LE civilian applications. In real life, a sniper is called in for the kill shot, to bring a situation to the ultimate deadly conclusion to spare other lives. Snipers aren't intended to take prisoners, or offer surrender. The sniper role can seem cruel, cold, heartless, detached. It also implies some superiority, which other players often resent, and I think is the major source of resentment. Real snipers get a bit of that, too, and they can be a bit aloof...is that by their nature, or just how things work out? Other times, people play sniper all the time, when their team needs them to play another position, and stubbornly play the sniper role anyway, pretty much just camping every game. "Go team!", right? Sometimes a sniper's separation from others in the field, tends to separate them from their team, but only if the team didn't really work as a team anyway. On a team, a sniper is just another tool, like a hammer, a wrench, or a screwdriver. When you're fixing things, sometimes you use every tool in your toolbox. Sometimes just a hammer does the trick. Use the right tool for the job, or accept the consequences. Sniping also takes great patience, and many people aren't up to that challenge, especially busier, more active young people. Sometimes, slower-paced people greatly annoy quicker-paced people, and vice-versa. For the most part, paintball has a fairly quick pace...and there are more rabbits, than tortoises. Most people prefer to run around blasting each other, which is also great fun. But in life, as in paintball, there are those among us who prefer a quiet game of chess, and a little friendly conversation, as opposed to an action-packed, adrenalin rushed, gore-filled game of Halo, Hitman, or whatever. It's just a different way of and outlook on enjoying life, and it's your life, the only one you're going to get, so you might as well live it your way. (Providing you don't interfere with anyone else seeking to do the same...that's the hard part!) Take care, and have fun.

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:17 PM

Poppa bear has written a book specifically for snipers in paintball
it was called the: Paintball Sniper's Pocket Guide

oh if i misspelt it sorry poppa


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Posted 05 April 2008 - 11:02 PM

umm run them down and shoot them? :laugh:

paintball sniping doesn't work. this has been proven, again and again.

Just shoot your gun, move up the field and eliminate the other team. easy.
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Posted 26 April 2008 - 07:37 AM

This has been discussed in several other locations before so I will only say this one thing.

A lot of people think there is no such thing as a paintball sniper. That's because they have never really seen one. Most people who call themselves a sniper are players that put on some camo and just call themselves a sniper, but they continue playing paintball the same way they always have.

Paintball sniping is an art and it can be VERY effective if done correctly.
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Post icon  Posted 26 April 2008 - 09:37 AM

View Postnewsniper101, on Feb 4 2008, 06:17 PM, said:

Poppa bear has written a book specifically for snipers in paintball
it was called the: Paintball Sniper's Pocket Guide

oh if i misspelt it sorry poppa


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btw i'm new to sniping



I can't find the book anywhere. Can you post a link or tell me where I can find it?
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Posted 26 April 2008 - 09:39 AM

http://biggerhammer.net/manuals/

There are several manuals for Army, Marine, SEAL, etc. snipers on this site. Read, and you shall attain knowledge.
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Posted 26 April 2008 - 09:51 AM

Easy, stay low, move slow; never go more than two paces in row. Ware the right camouflage for the environment. Don't use any multipurpose camouflage it doesn't work as well. I've heard the prone position being tore down but it's pretty effective.

And most importaint practice a lot.

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