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#61 User is offline   Thumper113 

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 12:23 PM

Nuf said

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 03:02 PM

It was like 3-4 years ago. Some kid basically said pour milk down your Flatline because it dries and leaves lactose crystals in the barrel that increases friction and puts more spin on the paintball thus increasing range. :)
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Posted 08 May 2010 - 03:12 PM

View PostHeadshotPhantom, on May 8 2010, 05:02 PM, said:

It was like 3-4 years ago. Some kid basically said pour milk down your Flatline because it dries and leaves lactose crystals in the barrel that increases friction and puts more spin on the paintball thus increasing range. :)

thats generally where i would stop reading..

but what crack was this kid smoking?
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Posted 08 May 2010 - 04:40 PM

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 04:44 PM

View PostThumper113, on May 8 2010, 04:12 PM, said:

View PostHeadshotPhantom, on May 8 2010, 05:02 PM, said:

It was like 3-4 years ago. Some kid basically said pour milk down your Flatline because it dries and leaves lactose crystals in the barrel that increases friction and puts more spin on the paintball thus increasing range. :)

thats generally where i would stop reading..

but what crack was this kid smoking?

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 05:26 AM

I don't know about you guys but I can easily get 40 bps on my stock 98 custom. It is like the bestest marker out there. I could like shoot Ollie Lang out with it anyday. 40 bps is like one fingering it for me....

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 06:22 AM

Ok,to all who hate me or my post, take it else where and STOP CLOGGING UP MY POST. I understand the concerns mentioned and that's ok. But the grade school comments are starting to degrade. If you have an opinion towards my post fine, but if you just want to be a pin head then go fine some other forum to screw up. Otherwise stay off my post or I'll have you reported over harassment.
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Posted 09 May 2010 - 09:07 AM

This thread is silly. The cyclone can't keep up, and even if it did you'd still chop balls.
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Posted 09 May 2010 - 09:15 AM

I think squishy paddles would do the trick.
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Posted 09 May 2010 - 10:42 AM

View PostLt.Vortex, on May 9 2010, 09:22 AM, said:

Ok,to all who hate me or my post, take it else where and STOP CLOGGING UP MY POST. I understand the concerns mentioned and that's ok. But the grade school comments are starting to degrade. If you have an opinion towards my post fine, but if you just want to be a pin head then go fine some other forum to screw up. Otherwise stay off my post or I'll have you reported over harassment.


LV. PM me or any staffer if you wish this thread closed. Nobody hates you it's just the way the internet debates. With that said ..... to the rest ...... debate all you want but any more trolling is redundant and will be considered spam.

Now LV here's my thing with this. I had the fastest A5 I have ever seen (maybe around 23-24 bps.) It had the old e-grip and on response mode with double trigger it would shoot ropes and broke enough paint (both barrel and breech.) Understandably I wore out cyclone ratchets and tried the vortex mod. That's when it chopped even more. Without the soft ratchet to absorb vibration (hence Tippmann used it) I had tons of hopper breaks. Squishy paddles didn't exist then and I never tried them on a super up'd A5 to judge them.

A cyclone has no race way so the loading ball had to move maybe 1.25" to sit in the breech instead of .70" like in an electric hopper. The bolt would chop at that point. The ball has about 80% more travelling time to load then with electric hoppers. Also the balls in a cyclone are gravity fed into position and if the paddles spun 40 bps I question whether the balls could drop into the slots of the paddles at any regular interval.

To add, the breech of the A5 is huge compared to other markers and at a high rate of fire the ball nevers sits perfectly for the bolt to strike it. The ball detent in an A5 only stops the ball from rolling forward ... not side to side. Hence more breech breaks. This is why Dye has another eye pipe when using smaller bore paint.

Anways . I read the whole thread and I saw that you stated maybe it was 30 bps. Even at that rate, which I think an A5 may be able to cycle at, I still question it not being a blender.


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Posted 09 May 2010 - 03:08 PM

View Postjtpaintball70, on May 8 2010, 06:44 PM, said:

You have been to PBN have you not?

no, but PBN has came to me a few times..

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im sure even with the techT vortex mod the cyclone would not be able to keep up, unless if you got some whacked out board, took off the cyclone and found a way to get a dye rotor on.. i dont think your going to have much luck with getting an a5 to shoot 40+bps

now that i think about it, it would be cool if someone modded an a5 like that.

ive only seen a5's with the cyclone, and q loader..
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Posted 09 May 2010 - 03:48 PM

hell, my old X7 cyclone with the full TechT upgrade kit (rachet, piston, piston housing, and paddles) could BARELY keep up at 20, and that was on fixed High HPA. with CO2 it just froze after a few rounds anyway. I honestly can't see a cyclone being able to do 40. I can't see a cyclone being able to do 25 reliably, to that.
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Posted 13 May 2010 - 09:15 AM

I had a firestorm crank on a cycloned 98 for a while. If I turned the crank as fast as I could the cyclone could not keep up and I ended up with a lot of breaks in the breech. I also had a few re-cocking issues. By the time I finally got a spring kit to see if that would work, the crank broke. The only time I really ever used the crank was during final battles at scenario games. I did not feel like taking paint home since I had to pack camping gear, paintball gear for two people, a cooler, and my fire gear into a dodge stratus.
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Posted 13 May 2010 - 09:49 AM

What if you put the single ball feeder on the A5, then would it shoot and feed at 30 to 40bps?
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Posted 13 May 2010 - 10:58 AM

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As others have stated. A cyclone is just not capabile of a super high ROF. I had a blinged out X7 a while back that had all the fixin's on the cyclone and it had trouble doing 23bps. Anything above that and the marker would either
A)De-cock itself
B)Chop
C)Misfire
D)Blenderize

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