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Bull pup Ion simple yet Awesome!

#1 User is offline   CERBERUS 

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Post icon  Posted 05 July 2007 - 06:38 PM

This can be done (theoretically) with any gun, but the ion is the easiest to work with/customize. Plus it will be cheaper with ion guts. :rolleyes:

I took this design from a modder called BHredneck on another forum. it was a great start but there were a couple of flaws, here i want to augment the design and propose a more efficient one to spec ops: I propose making a shell that situates the guts of an ION in the rear of the gun inside the stock and using longbow mags inside the body as well. The casing would lock closed on top to conceal the tube yet make it easily interchangeable. Being a Bull pup design, the grip would need to be relocated forward. The A-5 E-grip frame cradles it's micro switch without the support of it being mounted onto the board, this means that the switch on the ion could be removed and easily re-routed with wires to the A-5 grip. This grip would also be the easiest to connect etc..

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Here is my design as of now, it's pretty rough but the dimensions are fairly accurate and it gets the idea across. Everything in blue is contained within the gun, but the magazine extends out of the bottom even though it's all blue

1- Longbow mag
2- Internal regulator and adapter
3- Relocated micro switch
4- Ion guts and barrel
5- Mock-mag

- The micro switch will need to be inverted as it will be sitting within the A-5 trigger frame which only allows for such. It is a very small task to invert the switch, one only needs to switch the placement of the re-routing wires on the board.
- The magazine is a necessary addition to the look of the gun but quite impractical in function (as it was originally planned for), so i thought that it would be great to make it hold tools just like the X-7 mags.
- The whole body would be very inexpensive, very light, and quite durable if it was molded from the same material as the A-5's grip, or possibly even the A5A2 stock.

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"Funky Diver" over at Milsimog forums made this one as well as an amazing looking P90. this FN2000 is almost exactly what we're striving to do except for the longbow mag and the A-5 grip.

BHredneck's design
BHredneck's updated design
BHredneck's post on the underground mod shop's forum

LMK what you all think. Constructive criticism is helpful, but please don't spam.

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Dane

This post has been edited by CERBERUS: 08 September 2007 - 12:49 PM

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Posted 05 July 2007 - 06:53 PM

Your diagram looks more like an A5 than a Ion.
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Posted 05 July 2007 - 06:57 PM

add a carry handle and a red dot scopoe and u got urself a halo br
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 06:19 PM

View PostEvil Fingers, on Jul 5 2007, 07:53 PM, said:

Your diagram looks more like an A5 than a Ion.



that's because it's in no way supposed to look like an ion, and it uses an A-5 grip. naturally it would.

View PostZHoyle, on Jul 5 2007, 07:57 PM, said:

add a carry handle and a red dot scopoe and u got urself a halo br



i know im stoked. i think it will look sick.
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 07:48 PM

it would kinda look like a famas... personally id rather start off with the sp8 body if i did that because you could incorporate it in the stock frame.
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 08:02 PM

where do you screw in the air?!?
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 08:07 PM

View PostTheDane, on Jul 6 2007, 06:19 PM, said:

View PostEvil Fingers, on Jul 5 2007, 07:53 PM, said:

Your diagram looks more like an A5 than a Ion.

that's because it's in no way supposed to look like an ion, and it uses an A-5 grip. naturally it would.

Good Point...but, Special Ops wont go through the trouble of creating one, since anyone can actually build their own Bullpup Marker by using an Airsoft Body Kit.
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 08:57 PM

View PostEvil Fingers, on Jul 6 2007, 08:07 PM, said:

View PostTheDane, on Jul 6 2007, 06:19 PM, said:

View PostEvil Fingers, on Jul 5 2007, 07:53 PM, said:

Your diagram looks more like an A5 than a Ion.

that's because it's in no way supposed to look like an ion, and it uses an A-5 grip. naturally it would.

Good Point...but, Special Ops wont go through the trouble of creating one, since anyone can actually build their own Bullpup Marker by using an Airsoft Body Kit.

true but, it would actually be beneficial it S.O. if they did, most arisoft bodies are plastic and would break easily.
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 11:31 PM

so your looking at getting a SP8 and making ut Bull pup, So im thinking remote air
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Posted 07 July 2007 - 04:21 AM

View Postmephisto221, on Jul 6 2007, 08:57 PM, said:

View PostEvil Fingers, on Jul 6 2007, 08:07 PM, said:

View PostTheDane, on Jul 6 2007, 06:19 PM, said:

View PostEvil Fingers, on Jul 5 2007, 07:53 PM, said:

Your diagram looks more like an A5 than a Ion.

that's because it's in no way supposed to look like an ion, and it uses an A-5 grip. naturally it would.

Good Point...but, Special Ops wont go through the trouble of creating one, since anyone can actually build their own Bullpup Marker by using an Airsoft Body Kit.

true but, it would actually be beneficial it S.O. if they did, most arisoft bodies are plastic and would break easily.

But the thing is, Special Ops can not build and market an Ion Bullpup Marker, because you have to remember the Ion is a Patented Product of Smart Parts and Smart Parts is the company you should be submitting your Idea too not Special Ops.
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Posted 07 July 2007 - 09:22 AM

Looks pretty good to me, But i'd prefer to keep an Ion Grip frame and trigger. Don't know how that'd be done.
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Posted 07 July 2007 - 04:31 PM

View Postmatt, on Jul 6 2007, 11:02 PM, said:

where do you screw in the air?!?



its remote only. like the A-5a2

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 06:51 PM

You basically took the guy's idea and added some stuff to the shroud...At least give credit to the guy and links to his idea...

Here's the guy's original design.

Here's the guy's updated version.

The Thread on UMS.

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 09:00 PM

Haha!

I like the idea, but the reg should be easy to access, so you can adjust it. Cool if it was in say, the area where the shells were ejected, and you could pull back a spring loaded trap door or hatch to get to it.
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Posted 07 July 2007 - 11:13 PM

yeah, you can pretty much do anything with ion internals.. go buy an airsoft gun.

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