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#1 User is offline   kamokilla 

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 10:12 AM

Hey guys,

Does a standard co2 tank come with a built in regulator?

If not what its that little turny thingy on the side of the valve??
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 10:17 AM

No it does not. the "little turny thing" is a burst disk. If your tank is full, gets too warm and over pressurizes the burst disk blows venting CO2 to prevent an explosion. Should that happen DO NOT TOUCH THE TANK. CO2 can cause frostbite.
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 10:21 AM

View PostPuzuma, on Apr 12 2008, 01:17 PM, said:

No it does not. the "little turny thing" is a burst disk. If your tank is full, gets too warm and over pressurizes the burst disk blows venting CO2 to prevent an explosion. Should that happen DO NOT TOUCH THE TANK. CO2 can cause frostbite.




you know where I can get a regulator cheap?
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 10:23 AM

What kind of marker?
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 10:30 AM

View Postaqua_scummm, on Apr 12 2008, 01:23 PM, said:

What kind of marker?



before I answer that question....

1. how much pressure does a standard co2 tank give out?


Also It is not for a marker its for my paintball mortar
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 10:37 AM

around 800psi

Get a palmer's reg.

www.palmer-pursuit.com

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 11:00 AM

View Postmtaylor, on Apr 12 2008, 01:37 PM, said:

around 800psi

Get a palmer's reg.

www.palmer-pursuit.com



can I not have a regulator and always keep the co2 on or is that going to be a problem??
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 11:22 AM

70% of the regulators out there won't take CO2 or are low pressure - 450 psi output.


A cheap CO2 reg that outputs to 800 psi would be a Ergo reg by WGP. Good regs for the price. Palmer stab is by far the best CO2 regulator out there though.



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Posted 12 April 2008 - 11:31 AM

View Postslinkyaroo, on Apr 12 2008, 02:22 PM, said:

70% of the regulators out there won't take CO2 or are low pressure - 450 psi output.


A cheap CO2 reg that outputs to 800 psi would be a Ergo reg by WGP. Good regs for the price. Palmer stab is by far the best CO2 regulator out there though.



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is there anyway I can hook it up without a regulator?
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 11:42 AM

How do you know what psi you need. It must be preset then. Also where the weather effects CO2 it may be "hot" or too much pressure in the summer.

You really should put a regulator on. This gives you control on distance and safety.


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Posted 12 April 2008 - 11:48 AM

View Postslinkyaroo, on Apr 12 2008, 02:42 PM, said:

How do you know what psi you need. It must be preset then. Also where the weather effects CO2 it may be "hot" or too much pressure in the summer.

You really should put a regulator on. This gives you control on distance and safety.


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here is my set up

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l Tank l----------------------Valve---------gauge----------------valve------\
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------= pvc pipe, except when around a word such as the tank (Pressure Rated)
\,/= corner

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 12:07 PM

^^^^^^ - With the first valve you are controlling flow much like many CO2 blowback - spyder, tippmann. etc. - That's all the velocity screw does.


Give it a go. I think you got a lot of control on the output pressure.


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Posted 12 April 2008 - 01:09 PM

using pvc, you really should (must) have a reg. Pressure rated means around 2-300 psi, more than that could blow the pipe. That would be bad.

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 02:02 PM

View Postmtaylor, on Apr 12 2008, 04:09 PM, said:

using pvc, you really should (must) have a reg. Pressure rated means around 2-300 psi, more than that could blow the pipe. That would be bad.


my pvc says its 480 psi rated
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 11:50 PM

Riiight. Here are some random tid-bits. Co2 is stored at 800 PSI in the tank and another thing. When you put Co2 into a canister and you don't know what your doing, people die. You don't know what a burst disk is and your hooking things up to PVC? PVC + Co2 + Novice = Casualties. I'm not being a prick, I am being a realist. You could seriously hurt yourself or worse others around you. If you don't know what a burst disk is than maybe you should learn more about the nature of compressed gases and then assemble your device? Just a thought. Co2 is stored in liquid form so your going to want a expansion chamber of some sort, a reg light help but if its for a cannon than you might as well forget it. You could always be a really O.G. Baller and make a setup like so (TANK>REG>GAUGE>VALVE>CANISTER>VALVE>BARREL) So you can slowly turn the valve until the reg hits your pre-determined psi "100" and then it will stop filling so you don't have to worry about an explosion...That of course is simplifying things 10x more than they should be...
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