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Posted 20 July 2008 - 02:38 PM

Ok im looking into a nice woodsball marker. I was thinking of the A-5 with a few mods here and there...But I kinda like the look of the longbow...Can someone give me some advice please...Thank you all and have a nice day!

Also can someone tell me were I can buy a complete Longbow NEW?
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Posted 20 July 2008 - 02:47 PM

I advise try some out first because most people that get really into it move away from Tippmanns and more towards something that performs a little better. Take a look at the Smart Parts line and avoid all the Smart Parts Flamers since most of them have no idea what they are talking about and have never used Smart Parts marker. I can attest to you from both perspectives that both have equaully good customer service but I spent far less time fixing any of my smart parts products than I ever did with any of my Tippmanns.
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Posted 20 July 2008 - 03:06 PM

If you want to get a lower-priced scenario/milisim marker to get into paintball, go for the BT-4. Just like it was stated above with Smart Parts, ignore any Members here who try to argue that BT is a cheap ripoff of tippmanns. It's a good starter marker and has a slew of upgrades you can use on it. The A5 is a good marker, don't get me wrong, but the BT performs almost as well as the A5 does, for a lower price. The A5 will have many more milisim mods on the market, but Many would say that's a waste compared to upgrades that will actually affect your performance.

That said, the above markers are all prone to easily becoming money pits very quickly. I've seen people dump hundreds of dollars into tippmanns in the effort to make them look like actual firearms, when that money could've been put to better use, like buying a better marker, or new gear. But if Milisim is your bag, I'm not one to judge. By all means, spend your money how you want to spend it.

Anyways, If you're willing to spend the extra $$ I'd suggest getting an automag of some sort, or waiting for the BT TM-7 (see the Mini vs. TM-7 thread in the marker vs marker forum) which looks very promising. either marker will outperform the A5 any day of the week.

Regarding the Longbow, (which is just a Tac-one with a stock and a sping-loaded feed tube) I'd suggest getting a Qbow instead, or even a bare-bones Tac-one. The Longbow is very limited Paint-wise, which you may not like later on, if you're in a situation that you would want to use more paint. Plus, the LB kit just doesn't do justice on a Tac-one IMO. Instead I'd say you should go for a Tac-one, and if you feel you want to get a longbow or qloader kit later on, then you can go for it. but that's just my opinion.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 04:19 PM

Well a woodsball marker could be just about anything

If you're looking for that specific mil-sim image that narrows it down quite a bit. I personally am not a big fan of Tippmann's current lineup. They really aren't at the same level of quality they used to be, and given that they are simply just an inline-blowback valve system on the inside the A-5 and X-7 are incredibly bulky. I don't see them as very practical markers.

However, Longbows are very nice markers. What they are is an Airgun Designs Tac-One marker with the Specops body kit. I personally would forgo the body kit and focus on just the Tac-One marker itself. The body kit is fine if you really like how it makes the marker look, but like a lot of scenario/mil-sim stuff it isn't the most practical for actual paintball use. It's just there to sell an image. The marker's valve system is a bit more of a high-end one. It's a blow-forward system that uses a built in regulator. The result is that you have a marker that works at much lower pressures, you're going to be getting superior consistency, there will be fewer moving parts, and the marker will be pretty quiet when it fires. The Tac-One is just one of Airgun Design's lineup of Automags. Since it uses an X-Valve it can only run on HPA. If you plan on using CO2 I would pick an Automag with a Classic Valve. Unlike A-5s, Automags are one of the easiest markers to disassemble. Airgun Designs has among the highest of quality in the paintball industry and they make a very solid product.
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Posted 21 July 2008 - 04:45 PM

View PostPiller, on Jul 20 2008, 04:19 PM, said:

However, Longbows are very nice markers. What they are is an Airgun Designs Tac-One marker with the Specops body kit. I personally would forgo the body kit and focus on just the Tac-One marker itself. The body kit is fine if you really like how it makes the marker look, but like a lot of scenario/mil-sim stuff it isn't the most practical for actual paintball use. It's just there to sell an image. The marker's valve system is a bit more of a high-end one. It's a blow-forward system that uses a built in regulator. The result is that you have a marker that works at much lower pressures, you're going to be getting superior consistency, there will be fewer moving parts, and the marker will be pretty quiet when it fires. The Tac-One is just one of Airgun Design's lineup of Automags. Since it uses an X-Valve it can only run on HPA. If you plan on using CO2 I would pick an Automag with a Classic Valve. Unlike A-5s, Automags are one of the easiest markers to disassemble. Airgun Designs has among the highest of quality in the paintball industry and they make a very solid product.


You would be hard pressed to find a marker better then the Tac-One as a base. I too would recommend not getting the body kit and getting the stock that attaches to the grip frame instead. You get the same general look, but you don't get a shroud that is annoying as crap to take off, thus complicating to hell one of the otherwise most easy to disassemble markers on the market.

Go get a tack one, a stock, a palmer's brass barrel, and an HPA tank and you are good to go.
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Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:27 PM

I have a A-5 w/ a response trigger and a 16 inch smartparts barrel and it performs magnificent! The only other marker i wuld suggest th@s not a tippy...wuld be a smartparts ion...or the Spyder VS series
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Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:39 PM

Very low cost?.....BT-4 Combat. Mid range cost?......BT-TM7.
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Posted 22 July 2008 - 07:38 PM

well. Seeing as how your getting into scenario Im Assuming you have played paintball before.
If your a speedballer/ woodsballer /paintballer and your looking for a new play style.
just use your own stuff.
If your looking into scenario markers.
go to were you keep your paintball marker stored.
pick it up. Viola, scenrio marker.

If by any reason you have never/ rented played paintball.
Who cares about styles!?
Go light. as light as you can.
you will truly appreciate this after lugging a 11 pound marker for 3 hours. not fun.
I lighter marker will serve you for a long time. And that can be a tippmann 98 or A-5 or BT.
just shove an airthough stock ( reduces wight. a little )
and maybe a new barrel, ( most stock barrels are not so well made. some are really good though.)
your done.

no shrouds...no fancy crazy scopes and light fixtures.
no portible tents. or spotlights
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Posted 23 July 2008 - 12:51 PM

If you've never played paintball before, get a BT-4, unless you can afford HPA and then consider the SP1.
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Posted 23 July 2008 - 10:58 PM

I'd suggest looking into the TM7. From the looks of it you get that scenario/milsim look plus great perfomance too.
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