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Safety Notice. Ninja paintball tanks

#1 User is offline   twisted ion 

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 10:10 AM

Orininally posted on the World Paintball Union forums:

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this was sent by shadowram, from bandit

I got back from Castle Conquest around 9pm, took a shower, and went to sleep. Didn't get up as early as I would have liked to, so my gear sat in my car for most of the day, which was in the sun in over 100 degree weather.
When I got up I went out and grabbed my tanks out of my car and brought them in to make sure they were ok. Checked them over, and I just noticed my 90/45 Ninja has a 1 1/2 inch long crack on the body. It's about a centimeter wide, and maybe 1/2 a centimeter deep. The tank still has about 1,000psi in it. I'm going to call Ninja tomorrow about it, but I can't get it out of my head. Should I be worried? Bleed out the tank? Am I lucky this thing hasn't blown up on me? What should I do?
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It looks like the burst disk did not let off the pressure in the tank thus causing the outside skin to crack. Very dangerous!

I have no doubt that Ninja will correct this. Never leave your tanks in the heat. The burst disk on this tank has obvioulsy failed to pop, letting off the pressure in the tank thus causing the damage.
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Posted 17 July 2009 - 10:12 AM

Damn, that sucks. Has this happened with any other Ninja tanks?

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 10:13 AM

StealingYerMail, on Jul 17 2009, 01:12 PM, said:

Damn, that sucks. Wasn't this kind of user-fault though?


Yes, but tanks are designed with a burst disk for a reason. The burst disk should have popped and released the pressure long before the tank swelled enough to crack the outer skin.

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 10:14 AM

Yeah, I just actually gave it some thought haha. It still is lame though, and pretty dangerous.
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Posted 17 July 2009 - 10:31 AM

I'll make sure to check my dad's Ninja tank.

Thanks for the heads up!
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Posted 17 July 2009 - 10:50 AM

There's been a few cases of this. It's actually a crack in the finish. Nobody has ever been hurt from it that I know of. Ninja has also replaced any tanks that had this problem.

Here's 2 cases.

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I was at dday and took my tank cover off to relize that I had a crack on my new ninja tank, I called ray and also talked to him at dday, and he said its 100% safe, and I played a whole week of non stop paintball and it was fine, its just a crack in the paint, I also never hit it against any rocks or anything, I also dont do any crazy superman dives.

Ray said I could exchange my tank absolutly free, so I did. The only reason is because even that its safe and I know its safe, people freak out when they see a crack in a 4500 psi tank, also were I fill my tanks at they woudnt fill my ninja tank.


also i was wondering when I should get my tank back, or how ninja shipped it out, I shipped the tank pirority mail, last wendsday thanks, ray.

Ninja paintball has great customer service, they always pick up the phone.

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 11:00 AM

good to see companies that will stand behind their products.
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Posted 17 July 2009 - 11:32 AM

Yeah, it's just the finish they use. Doesn't do all that well in heat.
A friend of mine's team is sort of sponsored by Ninja (they get a discount on tanks). We were at a game in Georgia, and a few of them had little cracks appear.
The tank is fine, Ninja just needs a more heat resistant paint.
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Posted 17 July 2009 - 11:38 AM

It's understandable that people freak out when they see a crack in a 4500psi tank. I sure would.
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Posted 21 July 2009 - 10:06 AM

Yeah, I would still be worried but it's when the fiber gets damaged that you need to worry and throw the thing in the bottom of a lake. In any case just still replace the tank at any sign of more than a scratch.

Lesson! Don't leave pressure vessels inside a hot car/in the sun/in your oven. I left my gassed up phantom in the sun and now the gauge on it is not reading correctly. Actually it was in the shade when I left it but as we all know the sun moved. I should have removed the tank. Luckily it does not leak.
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Posted 22 July 2009 - 07:53 PM

It's the finish. I had a crack similar to that in my ninja tank, after I dropped it on a rock at D-Day. I had to take it to the Ninja tech at D-Day because of a faulty burst disc, and I asked him about the crack. He said it was fine. He actually just ended up replacing my tank, but that's a slightly different story.
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Posted 23 July 2009 - 08:12 AM

Just to put every bodies fears to rest.

I was at DDay and asked about this very subject. Only asked since there was a tank on his table with a raging crack.

The explaination is quite simple.

Ninja uses a double layered epoxy coating over the fiber wraps to add another layer of protection to the player.
These cracks are taking place in the topmost layer and offer no structural failure.

Normally this outer layer is damaged by an impact. This is the first one I heard about due to the heat, so I shall file this in my cranium.



If you can see fibers in the damaged portion of the surface...that is when you should be concerned! Get the air out of the tank and do not refill!

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 02:09 AM

Krazy8, on Jul 23 2009, 08:12 AM, said:

Just to put every bodies fears to rest.

I was at DDay and asked about this very subject. Only asked since there was a tank on his table with a raging crack.

The explaination is quite simple.

Ninja uses a double layered epoxy coating over the fiber wraps to add another layer of protection to the player.
These cracks are taking place in the topmost layer and offer no structural failure.

Normally this outer layer is damaged by an impact. This is the first one I heard about due to the heat, so I shall file this in my cranium.



If you can see fibers in the damaged portion of the surface...that is when you should be concerned! Get the air out of the tank and do not refill!

Where was the crack? Coulda been my tank :blink:
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Posted 26 July 2009 - 03:38 AM

That looks like external damage. I work for a fire dept and we use the more or less same stuff but just bigger. If i was Ninja i would tell you that you broke it. and it has nothing to do with a burst disc that is designed to burst at 47000psi to 50000psi. and clearly by you own a admission never reached that pressure. 100 deg will not raise the pressure of the tank 35000 psi or higher for external damage.
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Posted 26 July 2009 - 08:08 AM

2TALL2CARE. It's pretty common and only on the Ninja tanks. Most also use bottle wraps for extra protection. I personally think that the tank wasn't prepped properly before the finishing coat was applied.

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